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I coulda bought a modeler, but instead I bought two tube amps

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Digital Larry, Dec 2, 2020.

  1. Digital Larry

    Digital Larry Friend of Leo's

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    I got a Peavey Classic 20 Micro Head last week, and ordered a Mesa Boogie Express 5:25 Plus which hasn't arrived yet. I also got a Captor-X attenuator/IR/XLR thingey.

    The Peavey has an analog, fixed cab sim IR/XLR built in. I've used that awhile to drive headphones, and I'm not exactly doing back flips. It's a very different sound than I get connecting an open back 1x12 to the same amp.

    Note that I already have an Eleven Rack modeler, and have used it a lot. I just started to realize that in my whole life I've never owned a tube guitar amp, and so "I don't know what I'm missing". Part of the goal is to find out.

    The Peavey's clean channel is fine, and I can get a little grrr going on if I crank that. The drive channel I am less enamored with, however I can get some acceptable sounds with it and EQ adjustment.

    Mostly I am curious to see if this changes how I work, since even with EQ and a bunch of different modes on the Mesa Boogie, it's a known environment and I think I will settle down to just a few basic sounds that I use most of the time. With the 11R, most of the time I don't even remember which amp model I am using because it's not shown unless I'm on the right screen.

    I also have two pedals which use the FV-1. One I designed myself and it has expression pedal inputs for all 3 controls. I have used it with a fancy tremolo patch I developed myself. So that's the other thing that will be a bit unique, is that I will be coming up with screwy DSP effects in this setup.

    Stay "tuned" for more exciting updates!
     
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  2. KirbyBarba

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    IMHO digital modelers & effects are best when playing through a real guitar cab. I'm a big fan boy of my Katana Artist and my Peavey Classic 50 head and 4x10 cab. Eventually I will get another tube head (but with an FX loop) and a floor modeler - for me that's the sweet spot. Therefore I'm really looking forward to your updates!
     
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  3. Digital Larry

    Digital Larry Friend of Leo's

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    Yeah, sadly that's one thing I can't really do at the moment, not very loud anyway. I'm going to wind up with 2 guitar cabs, one open back, one closed back, and will probably see if I can get acceptable toanz out of them somehow.

    I may also try to do some stereo tracking just for giggles. See if that approach is worth it. I don't get too creative with FX on the 11R because it hardly has any effects - just basics IMO. I think this helps me concentrate on songwriting more than toan chasing.
     
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  4. stormsedge

    stormsedge Friend of Leo's

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    @DLarry...you've the same GAS I have...one modeler would have ruled them all, but no, I wanted amps and pedals in more than one room :oops:.

    Oh----Happy New Amp(s) Day! Collect them all, trade them with your friends.
     
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  5. SamIV

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    I have the Peavey ValveKing 20 MH, and I agree with your estimation on the drive channel, and the headphone out on mine. The reverb is not so great either. A headphone amplifier helps, but still sounds just ok. I use pedals for overdriven sounds, and it sounds quite good. If I really crank the clean channel, it sounds quite good, but that's too damn loud. It is a little more jangly sounding than the Classic.
     
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  6. Wally

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    Try a 12AY7 or a 5751 in V1 in the Peavey. You might like what it does to both modes.
    Congrats Larry on taking the plunge...I probably would find the Mesa to my liking.I like a MkV a lot, and the MKIV is my favorite Boogie so far. There are a lot of possibilities sitting in that Mesa. They may not be as easily accessible as your ‘models’, but I have always enjoyed the real thing rather than a simulation. Ommv.
     
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