I can't play my Tele anymore....so,

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by chulaivet1966, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. chulaivet1966

    chulaivet1966 Tele-Afflicted

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    ....time for a change.

    The short story....
    The arthritis in my left hand has been giving me a lot of pain and grief for some years.
    The neck is too thick and I can barely get through a 3.5 minute song anymore.
    So...time to sell it. (it's a 1977 Ibanez Tele Silver Series - in my avatar).

    I'm mainly a rhythm player and have always desired a semi-hollow body.
    The necks are generally less fat but I'm going into GC today (in Gilroy) just to feel some necks for comfort.

    What say you luminaries about your suggestion/experiences of the Epiphone Dot series vs Ibanez Artcore?
    Just looking for some G2 about both before I pull the trigger.

    Although I am familiar with the Gibson overpriced ES line I decided to check again yesterday.
    O___M___G!....almost gave me a coronary seeing the prices.....it must a great feeling to afford one.

    Thanks in advance for your comments.....
     
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  2. claes

    claes Tele-Afflicted

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    This is something I thought about. If some guitars are better as we get old. Im 54, I have Carpal tunnel syndrome that comes and goes. I't hurts when i play around with the bass.
    If flat neck does the trick i go for an ibanez wissard neck. I have also wondered if going to open G would help.
     
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  3. Sollipsist

    Sollipsist Tele-Afflicted

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    I don't know about the Artcore, but the Epi dot that I've played does have a very small neck, thin and narrow. And the owner had it strung with 009s with very low action - a very easy guitar. I felt like I could play it just by looking at it :)

    However (a big however), give yourself plenty of tryout time. Everyone that I've spoken with about arthritis and other hand issues tells me that a thinner neck isn't always easier on the hands. I know at least one player who swears that he cramps up less with a thick neck.
     
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    bftfender Friend of Leo's

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    agree on that neck..they are very comfortable
     
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  5. 4 Cat Slim

    4 Cat Slim Friend of Leo's

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    I don't see you going wrong with either the Epiphone Dot or the Ibanez Artcore (an older friend has an Artcore and swears by it).
    I hope that your arthritis doesn't get any worse and changing to one of these guitars works for you.
     
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  6. chulaivet1966

    chulaivet1966 Tele-Afflicted

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    CLAES:
    Will do....thanks for the suggestion

    SOLLIPSIST:
    Will do....I'm going into GC today and wrap my hands around some necks.
    I'm unable to buy an axe without feeling it first.

    BFTFENDER:
    Thanks for corroborating CLEAS neck comment.

    I haven't bought a new axe since the purchase of my Tele in 1979...YIKES!
    It's kind of exciting. :)

    4 CAT SLIM:
    Thanks Artcore endorsement...I hope so too.
    I've looked at both manufacturers in the last couple of days and currently lean toward Artcore....we'll see.

    Thanks gents.....I wonder if said 'trigger' will be pulled on this very day.
     
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  7. VintageSG

    VintageSG Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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    How straight is your wrist when playing?. Maybe a change in strap length/guitar angle will help alleviate the pain.
    Keef it up!. Open tunings are cool.
    Slide it baby.
     
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  8. P Thought

    P Thought Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    You might try a big fat neck with a wide nut on your tele, from Warmoth or Musikraft. Wide and fat has been 'way better for me (reminds me of a blind date I had once).
     
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    The Angle Tele-Holic

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    I have two Artcores, a semihollow AS73 and a hollow AF75. Same necks on both guitars, but narrower frets on the semihollow. I really, really like their slim, flat neck profile. Playing those guitars feels like letting your fingers dance on a runway.
     
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    etype Tele-Afflicted

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    I think this is definitely a case where you have to sit at a store and play 3-4 guitars (or 5-6) and see how each feels. Normally, guys on TDPRI with arthritis say they have more problems with thin necks, but you may find a D-shape (like an Epiphone Dot) suits you better. And once you do find the right shape for you, remember you can likely get a similarly shaped custom replacement neck that works for your Tele!
     
  12. chulaivet1966

    chulaivet1966 Tele-Afflicted

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    Strap length is fine.
    I'm able to bend my wrist sufficiently.
    Plus, the index finger is bending a bit inward making it more uncomfortable if a bar chord is necessary.
    But, I know lots of subs/partials....the bass can do those low notes. :)

    Thanks....
     
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    chulaivet1966 Tele-Afflicted

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    Duly noted....thanks.
    I'm still in research mode. (hmmm....the researcholian mode?)

    GC only had about (2) Artcores and (3) EpiDots.
    I played them all...none seemed to have a thinner neck.
    Oh....I'm interested in the Bixby thing either.

    Back to it.....
     
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    The only guitar designed for this problem is the original Lace Cybercaster, with the 12 degree twist neck.
    I have one, available, NOS.
    IMG_1515654724217.jpg
     
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    telepraise Tele-Holic

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    I have an Epi ES 339. Very comfortable guitar. The neck is longer than a tele but not necessarily slimmer. The Gibson ESs of 30 years ago had really narrow, slim necks, the epi is more usable. I have very short fingers and you'd think I'd want narrow, slim necks- but I do better with a neck that fills the crook of my hand some, especially if playing rhythm bar chords for any length of time. A semi-hollow with buckers is going to be a very different animal from a teles, fun but different. Warmoth makes 3-4 different neck profiles of different shapes and depths. I have their modern profile and love it.
     
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    3-Chord-Genius Poster Extraordinaire

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    I am a HUGE fan of the Ibanez hollow bodies.
     
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    chulaivet1966 Tele-Afflicted

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    Sounds pretty sweet....I am watching this video for some reference.


    Action comment?
    Is the neck a standard sort of thickness?

    450$ is in my affordability range.

    Thanks....
     
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    raysachs Friend of Leo's

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    I am too, but more the semi-hollows than the fully hollows. I find their necks and fretboards absolutely sublime - I think this may be one of the best descriptions I've read of them:

    And I think it's even more true of their ebony necks on the higher end guitars - smoother runway anyhow. I've played a bunch of Epis and Gibsons and just couldn't bond with the necks, even though they sound great. The Ibanez necks just feel like home to me - i can get around on them better than I can get around...

    BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT

    I have no idea how any of this translates in terms of the OP's specific medical problems and what shape neck would work for him. Or if my perceptions of the Ibanez necks would have ANYTHING to do with what he needs. So I think just going and playing a bunch of instruments is the key thing here.

    So good luck to the OP! But rest assured, it the neck shape works for you, you don't have to worry about the quality of an Ibanez hollow or semi-hollow guitar...
     
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    Uncle Daddy Tele-Afflicted

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    The Classic Vibe series has a slim neck. I went the other way with a MIM Standard with a U profile. feels great with my small hands and rubbish thumb joint.
     
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    Sparky2 Friend of Leo's

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    Original Poster;

    There is nothing that we can say that will matter, in the end.

    You need to play everything.
    You need to pick up every single guitar that you can get your hands on.

    If I say that you should buy the Yamaha Revstar 502T, and the next guy insists that you should buy the Squier Super-McGillicuddy Classic Vibrator, you can only count on one thing;

    We will both be wrong.

    The guitar that is right for you and your arthritic hands is out there somewhere.

    It's up to you to get out there and put your hands on it, and find it.

    ;)
     
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