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Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for 1966.Wait a second. You’ve owned the guitar since 1966? According to your bio, you weren’t even born then.
Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for 1966.Wait a second. You’ve owned the guitar since 1966? According to your bio, you weren’t even born then.
I already addressed that, I’m not 54 years old. Anything else?Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for 1966.
It's pretty incredible and very cool you've had that since 68 and it's still your go-go. And the fact that it's the first regret. Way cool.I’ve had my Telecaster since 1966, and I’ve never refretted this guitar, which happens to be my go to guitar for the most part, depending on the work. The time is now, although I’ve been doing a lot of work on my guitars as of recent, this one, I don’t want to try my hand at something so important, which could make or break the guitar as I see it. I’m not a metal player, I do a great deal of finger style work, dropping the pick almost fifteen years ago. I’m not looking to radically change the guitar, I’m looking for it to feel good in my hands, not seeking to change the feel of the 66, Any thoughts? I’m well aware people have their own preferences, i’m looking to restore the guitar to the way it was when I first purchased it In 66. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Rick
I've decided to do 6230s if I can get them in Stainless, the problem is, I'm very careful about finding a Luthier that I feel comfortable with. I had one for close to thirty years, he's moved on to making his own basses. I'm in NYC, if you know anyone with who I would feel comfortable with, I'm very careful about that.I would do it if it's a player-grade guitar. I, too, would go with the same wire it came with if you like the feel (most likely vintage 6230 wire, I'm guessing, but I'm not an expert on '66 teles). And I, personally, would spend the extra dough for stainless frets <runs, ducks the thrown objects from vintage purists>. You'll likely never have to refret it again and will enjoy buttery-smooth feel. Make sure the tech you use has a reliable reputation, especially with working with vintage instruments, and is willing to work with stainless (hopefully without a terrible upcharge)...not everyone is.
Thanks for that Doug, if I felt I had someone who really does great work, I would ship. I sense there's gotta be someone here in NYC Gruhn recommended I send it to him, I might just do that, we'll see, it'll be done within two weeks one way or another.I was in a similar situation a few years ago with my 1963 Tele. I have owned it, and played it as my #1, since 1972.
It needed a refret something fierce, but I was apprehensive about having work done on it. I finally bit the bullet and took it to Danny Shoemaker at Straight Frets in Austin, TX.
https://www.tdpri.com/threads/my-63-back-from-the-refret.830554/
He did a superb refret and also a Plek job on it. Around $500 total if I recall. Best guitar decision I ever made, plays wonderfully now. I don't recall the wire size he used for the refret, but it was as close to the original thinner size.
He does do shipping, but I'd like to think you could find a reputable person more local to you.
https://straightfrets.com/
Some pics in my gallery https://www.tdpri.com/media/users/ddewerd.4898/
Go for it, you'll be glad you did.
Cheers,
Doug
I've decided to do 6230s if I can get them in Stainless, the problem is, I'm very careful about finding a Luthier that I feel comfortable with. I had one for close to thirty years, he's moved on to making his own basses. I'm in NYC, if you know anyone with who I would feel comfortable, I'm very careful about that.I was in a similar situation a few years ago with my 1963 Tele. I have owned it, and played it as my #1, since 1972.
It needed a refret something fierce, but I was apprehensive about having work done on it. I finally bit the bullet and took it to Danny Shoemaker at Straight Frets in Austin, TX.
https://www.tdpri.com/threads/my-63-back-from-the-refret.830554/
He did a superb refret and also a Plek job on it. Around $500 total if I recall. Best guitar decision I ever made, plays wonderfully now. I don't recall the wire size he used for the refret, but it was as close to the original thinner size.
He does do shipping, but I'd like to think you could find a reputable person more local to you.
https://straightfrets.com/
Some pics in my gallery https://www.tdpri.com/media/users/ddewerd.4898/
Go for it, you'll be glad you did.
Cheers,
Doug
Yep, that was the first question that came to my mind. It had better be a darned reputable luthier IF it's maple AND you want zero damage to result.Maple or rosewood?
Hi,It's pretty incredible and very cool you've had that since 68 and it's still your go-go. And the fact that it's the first regret. Way cool.
That's my problem, Roger Sadowsky had been doing my guitars until he began setting up his line of Basses, where do I go from there? It's a Rosewood neck, if you know of someone, if they are really that good, I would consider shipping it.Yep, that was the first question that came to my mind. It had better be a darned reputable luthier IF it's maple AND you want zero damage to result.
It's a Rosewood, I had someone for close to thirty years. more or less, my guy, Roger Sadowsky moved on to start his line of basses, that was it. I should have gotten a referral from him, and probably still could come to think of it. I don't think I would be comfortable swapping out the neck, even temporarily, that's why the guitar feels the way it does, at least for me, I place huge importance on that. It wouldn't feel the same as I'm sure you know.Maple or rosewood?
Not every tech that does refrets know the techniques for refretting vintage Fender necks - especially maple. With maple, I would expect to get the neck back with some chipping evident near the frets. Rosewood chips can be filled pretty well. The number and size of the chips depends on the skill/experience of the tech and the neck itself. Sometimes the frets slide right out after heating, and sometimes they don't. This is where the experience of the tech pays for itself.
But a vintage guitar is pretty useless if you can t play it! Some people will remove the old neck and store it, then find a good replacement neck to use. This may be a consideration until you can find a tech you trust. Get referrals & reviews and see if the tech has pix of Fender necks like yours he has done, and ask HOW MANY he has done! And expect to pay for experience. Try to get several estimates.
However, that. would be taking away one of the things that makes this guitar what it is, the neck has worn in so nicely, and I'd lose that, I want to play this guitar the way it is, at least that's my take on it. I know of many people who would agree with it, and had it be any other of my guitars, I'd probably agree.Might not be a popular answer, but I'd probably trade necks and put the old one back in a box, in the original condition it's in now. When I modify anything of any significant value, I usually try to do it in a way that allows it to be returned to original, if possible.
However, that. would be taking away one of the things that makes this guitar what it is, the neck has worn in so nicely, and I'd lose that, I want to play this guitar the way it is, at least that's my take on it. I know of many people who would agree with it, and had it be any other of my guitars, I'd probably agree.Might not be a popular answer, but I'd probably trade necks and put the old one back in a box, in the original condition it's in now. When I modify anything of any significant value, I usually try to do it in a way that allows it to be returned to original, if possible.
That's why I've been putting this off, surprisingly, it's playable, but it's really time. I'm concerned about finding the right guy, maybe I'm making too big a deal about it, yet, this is really one of my finest guitars, yet, its time to move, if you know of anyone who is known for work on Vintage guitars, Fretting and such, I might ship if necessary, I'm in NYC, and I cant find anyone.Yep, that was the first question that came to my mind. It had better be a darned reputable luthier IF it's maple AND you want zero damage to result.