I’ve decided to keep my balls

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  1. Chiogtr4x

    Chiogtr4x Poster Extraordinaire

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    Got it I see,
    So is that just created from increased tension of the 'hard stop' nature ( and mass) of the ball end?
    ( always trying to learn)
     
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    it's the increased tension. The mass doesn't really figure into this.
     
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    Right, I guess I really just meant ' hard metal object'
     
  5. Axis29

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    I recently purchased my first nylon string guitar... and my first nylon strings.

    I went with ball end strings... But, as someone mentioned, I really don't care for the aesthetics of them. I find them untidy. I really like those New Diamond thingies! But, I also would like to learn how to tie the regular nylon strings in place.
     
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    it's not too hard once you get the hang of it. Some folks get creative and leave the end long enough to weave into the adjacent ends.
     
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    You got the top end down & the bottom end up .
     
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    Way too much time on your hands.
     
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    That, and..

    When the string loops around itself (top / front of tie block) the force on the part of the string going up and over the saddle is UPWARD (out away from the top). In other words, that looped part of the string will tend to 'pull' the section between saddle and tie block UP. Ideally, you want the forces to be pulling / keeping the string down as much as possible. A ball-end or tie bead fixed string will keep that angle a bit more pronounced.

    Here is a an interesting bridge design I came across recently.

    https://www.thomannmusic.com/vgs_pro_andalus_10m_cedar.htm

    (If you select and zoom into the 3rd detail image from right and zoom in, you'll get a good look at the bridge. It has some advantages -- hint: think 1). break angle, the front of the tie block is angled downward toward the saddle, and 2). the lesser bridge mass tends to promote better vibration of the top.

    With nylon/classical/flamenco guitars, because the mass involved (string energy mostly) is so much less (than steel string guitars), every little thing matters that much more.
     
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    Or a Strat at a Cream reunion.
     
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    When I had a classical (my first guitar, I miss it so) I tied off.
     
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    First time I see balls in Spanish Guitar Strings...

    One advice... Just ONE loop, please. It will get in tune faster

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    Just wait until you see my hat. all balls.

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    Yeah drf64 is a bit of an oddball!:rolleyes:
     
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    did you know I once got kicked of church? It was for talking about diddy wah diddy too much.

    I wish somebody'd tell me what diddy wah diddy means.
     
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    With a hat and balls like that I don't believe you could be told anything, you are setting new bars to leap.
     
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    Those, mi amigo, are dingleberries.
     
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  18. El Marin

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    I think you are having a mistake... that must be a kinda stereotype of a Mexican hat or whatever... I am a spaniard. We don't use "that thing" :lol::lol::lol:
     
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    I had a dog once who only had one.
    Big, and I mean big, male Catahoula.
    Sweet demeanor if we were home. No one could ever get out of their car if we weren’t. But, I digress.
    His name was King.
    Sometimes I just called him Uno.
     
  20. teletimetx

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    Another uno story; prologue: in Spanish, the word pelota means ball.

    very downtown Austin has a bicycle shop, called Mellow Johnny. It’s owned (or was, haven’t verified),by a certain infamous US pro bicycle rider, who ended his career by having a large number of tour wins disqualified. Yeah, first name, Lance.

    foreshadowing: in 1992, as part of treatment for testicular cancer, he went through a successful orchiectomy (look it up), and then went on his way to win a lot of stuff.

    This isn’t meant as a diatribe against doping, blah, blah, blah - just a little evidence that sometimes, even lying cheaters have a sense of humor.

    back to the Austin bike shop - which also has a coffee shop, that’s apparently a fine coffee shop. The coffee shop is called Juan Pelota.

    Now say it slow. Go ahead.

    Juan. Pelota.

    ok, return to your classical guitars. Thanks for listening!
     
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