I’m search of gorgeous cleans at TV volume...

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  1. Gris

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    Princeton Reverb with the right 12” speaker. Spkr is HUGE part of low vol cleans equation.

    Tweed Champ circuit also good.
     
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    I Think your frontrunner is a great one. I have the lil dawg mutt and love it. It has a great clean sound and dirty sound in my opinion. I do have a 12 inch blue-black in it.
    I will say it is still pretty loud, my wife cannot watch TV in the room if I am playing, even on 3.
    I am surprised that there is not more love for lil dawg amps. They were highly recommended around here when I bought mine.
     
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    Strymon Iridium or Walrus ACS1
     
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    I agree. The Princeton immediately comes to mind. You'll get more headroom out of the '65 Princeton Reverb Reissue than the '68. This topic comes up from time to time, and the Princeton is the penultimate amp.
     
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    Amen, Brother!!


    edit: in my defense I bought my first Taylor last week. Sweet guitar!
     
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    Check out the Supro Delta King line. The master volume feature will get you where you need to go.
     
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    It’s really not loud. You have to use input 2 and your guitar’s volume control to dial it in.
     
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    Best all around is Mesa Studio .22+ combo if you can find one. I know people think Mesa is all about distortion but they were based on Fender BF topology. These provide the sweetest cleans I've ever heard ever. This model easily out Fenders any Fender!

    Of course it also has the ability to give any shade of hair/grit/grind/sustain at whisper quiet levels. Yet you could also gig or jam with these live. Hangs with any reasonable drummer.

    Otherwise, get a Princeton Reverb from 60's thru non-boost 70's. Sorry to say but the Reissues are a pale imitation of the originals. I've had both. You are NOT saving any $$$ buying the Reissue, merely skimping on tone. Get the real deal. They last forever.
     
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    Have you checked on a dB meter? For me, Input 2 in a BF/SF Fender is horrible. Neutered, flat. YMMV.
     
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    Why only tell OP the second best option?
     
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    I have a Fender Greta Pawnshop Prize and it's pretty good at low volume, also makes for a nice radio/mp3 player amp. Kind of hard to find now though.
     
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    Not a head and, I don't think they make any, but the Carr Super Bee will give you great clean tone (or over driven) at bedroom level.

    PTP hand wired tube goodness with their built in attenuator. With these amps, you loose low end when attenuated playing quietly. Three band EQ solves that issue.

     
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    I had one of those for about six months, and you are absolutely correct. Extremely powerful EQ controls and master volume let you dial in the tone you want at any volume, including whisper quiet.

    I'll admit that I never in almost 60 years of playing tried to play in the same room with others watching TV. Always seemed like one would interfere with the other too much to be acceptable.
     
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    Any BF/SF Fender. Not trying to be a jerk, for me that's often a Twin.

    Princeton doesn't sound 'better' clean, IMO, just different. 'Lush'.
     
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    Hi.

    The hand-wired one, compared to the regular 12 inch speaker model, has a bigger cab, better wood and a Greenback. So, it does bigger, fuller sounds in general than the regular 12 inch one (& the TV presumably). When I compared then back to back in the shop, I remember the difference being very apparent.

    However, I've heard that the TV model is great for recording driven tones.

    Pax/
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    Look you stated $$$$$ is an issue. Okay. You also stated you have cabs, so without a lot of mumbo-jumbo a Bugera V-22 head, will solve all your issues. It a 22 watt, an 11 watt reverb dual input amp. Sounds good at any volume.
    Has output for ext. speakers and cost is cheap. The only thing you have to do is dial it in to taste.
     
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    5f11 tweed vibrolux circuit with a 12” speaker. Best low volume cleans I’ve ever played, turn the amp vol and tone up turn your guitar volume down and tone knob to taste. Beautiful dynamic cleans. A little of the Trem on that amp and you don’t even need reverb.
     
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