1. Win a Broadcaster or one of 3 Teles! The annual Supporting Member Giveaway is on. To enter Click Here. To see all the prizes and full details Click Here. To view the thread about the giveaway Click Here.

I’m search of gorgeous cleans at TV volume...

Discussion in 'Glowing Bottle Tube Amp Forum' started by Tarnisher, Feb 24, 2021.

  1. Mr Green Genes

    Mr Green Genes Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,754
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2016
    Location:
    MI
    Me too.
     
  2. bgmacaw

    bgmacaw Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    6,051
    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Location:
    Near Athens GA USA
    I use the cheapskate's version of this concept, the Bugera Power Soak, with my Monoprice 5w. It goes from there into a Hotone IR Cab then to a mixer for recording and/or monitors.
     
    RevBillyG, drewg and northernguitar like this.
  3. northernguitar

    northernguitar Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,302
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Location:
    North of Toronto
    Yeah, that one is pricey for me, too. I use the Torpedo V1 as a loadbox/DI into a Mooer Radar and then on to an interface for a DAW or band mix. I have a couple of Ownhammer and ML Sound Labs IRs, mostly a 2x12 cab with a V30 and Greenback sound.
     
  4. Hoodster

    Hoodster Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,384
    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Location:
    Oregon
    I don’t even use the low wattage mode because it sounds so beautiful at low volume on full power.

    I’ve said it before, but these are the biggest sleeper amplifiers ever. If it said Fender on the nameplate they would’ve sold container ships full of these, because it’s basically a blackface Princeton non-reverb the size of a lunchbox with the addition of tweed (pure) and British modes.

    The Pure mode is the best pedal platform I’ve ever heard.
     
    eean and Tarnisher like this.
  5. Jazzerstang

    Jazzerstang Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,151
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2011
    Location:
    Blackstone Valley, USA
    5f1 with a 200uf mica or ceramic cap on the volume pot. Literally.
     
    jman72 and Tarnisher like this.
  6. howardlo

    howardlo Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,138
    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Location:
    Hobart, IN
    I somewhat agree, but my acoustics are louder than I normally play my electrics.
     
    Telecaster88 and schmee like this.
  7. That Cal Webway

    That Cal Webway Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Posts:
    2,422
    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2012
    Location:
    Minot

    Say NO to outta tune clean guitar w/o a clue!
     
  8. davidge1

    davidge1 Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,997
    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Location:
    USA
    If you want it clean, any Fender amp will sound good at even the lowest volume. Why would you need an attenuator?
     
    ragamuffin, mmannaxx, moosie and 5 others like this.
  9. ReverendRevolver

    ReverendRevolver Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,919
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Location:
    Ohio (Nerk)
    Get someone to build you a non-reverb princeton in a head unit.

    What was the price range?
     
    Tarnisher likes this.
  10. printer2

    printer2 Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    7,196
    Joined:
    May 24, 2010
    Location:
    Canada
    Get an inefficient speaker.
     
  11. Mark the Moose

    Mark the Moose Tele-Afflicted

    Age:
    46
    Posts:
    1,357
    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2018
    Location:
    Colorado Front Range
    Find a builder to put together a Blackvibe Micro. Otherwise, Princeton Reverb or similar clone.
     
    Tarnisher likes this.
  12. middy

    middy Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    50
    Posts:
    3,146
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2010
    Location:
    MSP
    Any blackface Fender sounds good at a low volume without an attenuator. Y’all are out to lunch.
     
    mmannaxx, howardlo, driver8 and 3 others like this.
  13. mally

    mally Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,042
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2013
    Location:
    runcorn cheshire uk
    The Amp though ? That was the question
     
  14. tattypicker

    tattypicker Tele-Meister

    Age:
    48
    Posts:
    113
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2019
    Location:
    UK
    Since you want a valve head, I’d look at a Mesa TA15. Switchable power down to 5w, Master volume, and choice of fender or vox clean voices.
     
    Tarnisher likes this.
  15. Wallaby

    Wallaby Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    2,078
    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2018
    Location:
    Here
    Carr Skylark. I do it every night :)

    Anyone try a Gremlin? I've always been interested in them when I see something about them.
     
    Tarnisher likes this.
  16. tele_savales

    tele_savales Tele-Holic Platinum Supporter

    Age:
    55
    Posts:
    951
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2018
    Location:
    Brooklyn, Joey!
    Strongly agree.
     
    moosie, howardlo and driver8 like this.
  17. DougM

    DougM Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    6,811
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2017
    Location:
    Honolulu, HI
    The Laney Cub 12R has 3 band EQ, reverb, 15w and 1w inputs, and a 12" speaker. J00136000001000-00-750x750.jpg ae00-40198_3_.jpg
     
    Tarnisher likes this.
  18. Mr Green Genes

    Mr Green Genes Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,754
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2016
    Location:
    MI
    This is a bit like asking which Ferrari is best for off-roading.

    If you're driving on the Autobahn, get the Ferrari. If you're going off-roading, an old Jeep CJ7 will leave the Ferrari in the dust, easily.

    It's not a matter of which one is "better", it's a matter of having the right tool for the job at hand.

    You're looking for "gorgeous clean tones" at "apartment bedroom volume"/"TV volume".

    Any tube amp is going to be a compromise. Even with the most ridiculously inefficient speaker you can find, you're looking at either an attenuator, which you already know will compromise the sound coming out of it, or a sub-one-watt amp, which uses odd, off-label tubes that will never sound like a matched set of 6L6s.

    There are loads of "blind" videos on Youtube comparing the clean tones on solid state vs tube amps. Invariably, when people don't know what they're listening to, and judge only on what they're hearing, the solid state amps come out ahead... for clean tones.

    Where the tube amp comes out ahead is when you want buttery, creamy, lush, over-driven sounds. When it comes to clipping, solid state just can't compete with a good tube amp.

    In your case, you're looking for clean tones from your amp, and in any case, you're going to be getting your distortion via solid state (unless your pedals all use tubes instead of transistors).




    Solid state.


    .
     
  19. Tarnisher

    Tarnisher Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

    Posts:
    2,582
    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2008
    Location:
    Brooklyn
    Gorgeous Cleans:


    Adequate Cleans:


    Underwhelming Cleans:


    And as for grammar, any nerd should know that English routinely makes nouns of verbs and vice versa. Case in point: rock is a verb meaning to move back and forth; it then became a noun meaning the kind of music people move to, and finally morphed into another verb, meaning to groove to that music.
     
    Telefsantasia1 likes this.
  20. Tarnisher

    Tarnisher Friend of Leo's Gold Supporter

    Posts:
    2,582
    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2008
    Location:
    Brooklyn
    I never knew those to have much headroom, even at low volumes. Am I wrong? How's it take pedals?
     
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.