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Hybrids. Do they work for you?

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by LGOberean, Feb 22, 2021.

  1. dreamsinger

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    I do an acoustic thing that involves a lot of different alternate tunings. Changing tunings in the middle of a set was sloppy showmanship so I had a "quasi-acoustic" guitar built. It looks and feels like an acoustic but it has a Ghost Hexpander MIDI system that I run through either a Roland VG8ex or a Boss GP10. The acoustic patches are pretty decent but the surprise was some of the electric patches, especially the "Keef" 5 string Tele patch. It sounded great but the guitar is strung with light gauge phosphor bronze, too heavy for the right "feel" for electric. Conversely, I find that piezo pickups on an electric don't sound right acoustically under the typical light gauge electric strings. Obviously I don't blend the analog and MIDI output when using an alternate tuning patch but I've never liked to blend them in a standard tuning either. I've considered putting the Hexpander system in my Tele but may just build another "partscaster" with only the Hexpander pickups.
     
  2. decibel

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    I'm not sure about those, but a CF-100E is killer. I can get legit acoustic and electric tones from it. In some ways (through pedals/distortion), the electric tones are even better than the acoustic.
     
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    Gibson sir...
     
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    Hybrid? You get the worst of both worlds...I've got a Cort nylectric which is pretty cool but it's more an acoustic than electric. Great plugged in but quiet unplugged.
     
  5. MoHump

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    Been down that road with a Nashville power tele; never could get a good acoustic or electric sound out of it. So, now it's a US Elite tele, a US Elite strat, a Gibson ES-275, and a Martin D-35. Each have their own unique corner of my musical universe.
     
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    I owned a Taylor T5z Custom Koa. Beautiful guitar, superb neck & playability, great acoustic sound through a PA or Acoustic amp. The combined sounds were distinctive and sweet. Playable unplugged, but the body is too small to have the tone or volume of an actual acoustic. For me, the limitations were the electric sounds. Usable, but could never find anything I really liked. Eventually traded it for an 00-21. And I bring a Tele or Strat if the gig needs both.
     
  7. rze99

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    I dig my Taylor T5 - it's a wonderful thing. I've recorded an album with it as an acoustic combination of micing it and the pickups on it into the desk via a channel strip and it sounds nice .... in the mix a strumming guitar. Track example attached.

    Had some fun blending it into a tube amp for breakup and an acoustic amp. Not used it like that much, too compromised.

    It's also a great general sofa guitar and for songwriting. Not too loud. Gets lost of nice comments about it being beautiful, which I think it is too :) In Aztec Gold, a limited edition.

    I also use a nice Guild acoustic for finger pickup stuff.




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    Although I typically bring electrics and acoustics to a gig, I've been impressed with A/Es that have both a transducer and piezo. With some experimentation my Godin Multiac Steel, served me well for most musical genres.
     
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    I have a T5z, and absolutely love it. It’s great for small gigs, where I don’t want to carry lots of gear. I can get great electric sounds through my pedal-board, and decent acoustic sounds when I need. It plays like a great electric guitar. Great neck, perfect fretwork, and low action. A really beautifully made instrument. Wonderful couch guitar too. Not cheap, but worth the price.
     
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  10. bigjohnbates

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    I have a Gretsch Synchro 400 JV with whatever piezo they stuck under the bridge. A pal and I carved a hole in the top for a P90 and wired it thru the existing volume pot under the pickguard. The piezo is currently not wired in but I'm thinking that there must be a way to use both pickups with split wiring so I can let the piezo drive an LR Baggs and the P90 hit my pedalboard. That would be acoustic-electric enough for me.

    Thoughts?
     
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    I was on the Variax development team for many years and I always thought a Variax acoustic box would be a good product, so players could create a hybrid setup using their personal electric for acoustic sounds (provided they had a piezo bridge installed with a 1/4" stereo output jack). So I built one myself using the mono acoustic modeling circuit from a Variax 300 (the least expensive Variax acoustic at the time).

    As most of us know the best way to get good amplified acoustic sounds is by using a full range amp. You can then have your standard electric amp plus the acoustic amp and get some great blends. I was surprised at how good the acoustic modeling sounded using 9 to 46 strings on my Strat. I'm talking mainly clean sounds, like stereo chorus electric with modeled acoustic in the middle. One of these days I'll do a sound clip. Here's the guitar I put together for it, which is another story.

     
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    That's seriously nice!
     
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    thanks @mimmo

    It’s a lovely harmonious design and I prefer it in a colour rather than natural wood. The gold is gorgeous in the flesh.

    It plays like an electric because it is one it’s basically a semi acoustic electric with piezo and other gear.

    I’ve had some fun playing in a three piece putting this through two amps one acoustic with a touch of chorus, one dirty tube with a TC mimic double tracker. Sounds enormous just like two guitarists.

    I got it used at a decent price. They are way too expensive new. Incredibly easy to play. Plays like a Casino or a light 335.
     
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    Sounds like a winner.
    I have never had the pleasure to play one of these, but honestly I have never read a bad review.
    Usaually I am into gold, but - once more - yours is simply stunning.
     
  15. EsquireOK

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    Nashville Teles sure do OK at providing a good hybrid of Strat and Tele, in my book.

    As for what the OP is talking about, my old Guild F-45CE did OK. Not a good unplugged acoustic. But plugged in, it provided a "quite decent" plugged acoustic tone for 1980s technology, and it certainly played like an electric.

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    No they do not work FOR ANYONE! No dual duty guitars please. If i was sitting in the audience I would get real annoyed. I would rather wait an extra minute for your guitar tech to bring you a different guitar for a particular song.
    Get two or three nice acoustic guitars with round holes. Put in a magnetic soundhole pickup in the soundhole. Also try to blend it with a microphone.
    For electric guitar, make sure you have at least one Telecaster and one Stratocaster, one Gibson Les Paul , one Gibson ES 335, and one Gibson SG.
    Hope that helps.

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  17. zeke54

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    About 20 years ago I was in a band that started out as all acoustic. We started evolving into more electric , that was really where our hearts were . I had bought a nice Takamine acoustic electric , but had not really bonded with it completely . Fender brought out the Stratacoustics , so I bought one ... nice , a neck I could bond with ( I previously played Strats ) . Did it sound like an acoustic ? no , not really . Did it sound like my Strats ? Kinda , with the right pedals . We did play this one outdoor gig I remember well , I probably was playing through a Princeton Reverb , we played Black Magic Woman , Santana's version , that Stratacoustic and PR and whatever pedal I was using found a bond . The solo at the end reached that edge of feedback thing and all the stars were in sync , really surprised me . I have approximated that since , but only with a Les Paul . But really , the Stratacoustic was neither a great acoustic nor electric .
     
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    No, they absolutely do not work for me.
     
  19. richey88

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    i had one of those, ended up tearing the piezo out. Was problematic. Now the Dean Cadillac I had sounded good both ways, but all electronics died with the battery. Ended up bringing an acoustic. Ah the good ol days when we had gigs!!
     
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    Things are looking up around here. I've been averaging one gig a month since March 2020. This month, I have six shows scheduled this month, all at assisted living facilities, which pay extremely well, not to mention REALLY appreciative audiences. Hope you're doing better'n'me, and I'm doing fine!
     
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