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How's My Mix - Country Gospel #2

Discussion in 'Recording In Progress' started by Pineears, Feb 28, 2021.

  1. Pineears

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    This is Amazing Grace done to PEF. I planned to get one Gospel song done each month and have 12 by the end of the year for a CD, much harder than I thought. I'm not going to make it. I spent more time planning, but the plan fell apart. Got help learning the guitar lead from the B Bender Forum.

     
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    ABOVE

    very creative ! Enjoyed it , thx for sharing it !
     
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    Sounds good to me I would maybe put the voice a bit less in front and work on the reverb to make it more "in the room" than in front. Love the harmonies, the bass and drums are cool and tight.

    Over all a very nice track ;)
     
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    The last thing I was tweaking was lead vocal. I had that thought that it might need pushed back a little. I’ll go back to that. The vocal reverb has the dry signal cranked way up.
     
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    Well, I am only listening on my studio headphones, but the mix sounds excellent through there! Very clean sound with great definition on all the instruments.
    I think the steel guitar in the verses could come up a touch, but that is just nit-picking...
     
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    Yes, the steel guitar is there but not drawing any attention. More steel = more country, I like that.
     
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    Nicely done.

    Only things I would look at is that the guitar solo is fighting the backing arpeggios as they are in the same register and often playing the same notes with similar sounds. There is some masking going on.
    Maybe thin out the backing vox a little bit with some slight EQ cuts too.

    From a purely stylistic standpoint, I'd tweak the snare sound a little to be less modern sounding and more "cardboard " to fit the old school, Peaceful Easy Feeling vibe.
     
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    In case you wondered how playing it live I'd start with Mandolin and switch to guitar lead.

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    I really think you can up the game and produce more than one
    song per month. Yes sir!

    Once you gain more confidence in your mixing
    and recording skills, things will just become
    just like another day in the office and what you
    labored over for hours in the beginning stages
    will be your strengths very soon.

    One of the hardest things to accomplish is
    your lonely, very alone, by yourself decision making.
    We all suffer from it. It's hard to ask a non musician
    for their opinion or a non recordist for their input....
    I usually get the, "Oh that's nice dear, can you feed the cat!"....
    (we don't even have a cat!) Musta been my lead guitar you heard!
    Lol.

    Well, the song is very cleverly done and I would only suggest
    you listen to your mixes on several sound systems to determine
    your final product. I have an all JBL system that I hear your
    music from. Everything from 18 inch subwoofers to beautiful
    sounding mids and highs. I don't listen on headphones for
    my jaded work environment for decades makes me hate
    headphones or anything somebody wants to stick close
    to my ears! Maybe I need therapy! Lol.

    But I did notice one comment here about your mix sounding
    good on headphones...... so, were you going for that
    headphone crowd? Did you mix on headphones and which ones
    did you use? Thanks.
     
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    Pretty awesome.
     
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    Headphone mix was not intended. I did aim for dominant bass and drums. I mix to some good 2.1 pc speakers(Altec Lansing, most of my mixing), headphones (Presonus HD7), PA w/sub (my favorite), and a good system in my Jeep. Oh and a little Bluetooth speaker. I mostly use the headphones to listen to one track.
     
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    I was the one who mentioned listening on headphones - I always check my own mixes on the phones AND my M-Audio AV40s monitors ... but they need to be driven hard - it was late, and I didn't want to fire the monitors up at that hour. Sorry to sidetrack the thread !
     
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    All good, lead me to dig out the Apple Earbuds (I hate um) and give a listen.
     
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    Looks hairy........

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    My Apple earbuds have been in a drawer since the day I got them - I have never found a pair of earbuds that worked for me :0(
     
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    The reason i asked about the headphones was double
    duty, I recently commented on another forum here about
    The Fletcher-Munson Curve and The Equal Loudness Contour.

    So what does this have to do with this thread?
    Well, everyone will give you their opinion on mixing with
    earphones and this guy is no different:



    Sometimes people will do a separate mix just for
    their audience that specifically listens on ear devices.

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    Oh well - the more I find out, the less I know...
    (to paraphrase the late Johnny Nash)
     
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    Did you watch the video?

    What did you think?

    I know the guy was being opinionated
    but the comparisons were eye opening.
     
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    I did watch it and the point is valid and illuminating. He certainly laboured that point... but repeating variations of the same argument, and slashing around with a red marker is pretty irritating and not helpful. This observation could have been explained in half the time. Thank you, anyway it was worth watching.
    What probably worries me more than Fletcher Munson curves, is whether (at 72) my hearing can be trusted - obviously at this stage in my life I am probably missing high frequencies - but is that muddled low frequency jumble only in my ears, or can everybody else hear it too!??
    So, I just play music for my own fun. if it sounds OK to me I have reached my (very low) goal...
    Appreciate the help,
    Tony
     
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    Wow. That was an pretty darn impressive mix to me. It's got super silky good sound to it.

    Yeah, my only comment would be just a tiny bit more steel and maybe just a hair less vocals. But I mean, that's just as purely a listener and I can't make my songs sound that good yet. Very impressive.
     
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