How will True Detective end??

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Childress was not the Yellow King. He was a minion of the Yellow king, a highly intelligent high priest.

This series unfolds like a classic Lovecraft story. Rust is the True Detective because he is able to see the truth of what is really happening. Very well written, many layers to this onion.
 
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There were a dozen people in that video and it seems even more behind the cover-up.

They didn't manage to find the puppetmaster but they were at least able to put a stop to the actions of the person who did the dirty work.
 

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So do you think that the next season is a continuation of this storyline? I was under the impression that this tale was told beginning to end in eight episodes and any following season would be a new story with new actors.
 

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So do you think that the next season is a continuation of this storyline? I was under the impression that this tale was told beginning to end in eight episodes and any following season would be a new story with new actors.

Next season will be a different story with different actors and characters. I read an interview with the writer, Nic Pizzolatto, who said that it is about bad women, bad man and the occult origins of the national transportation system.

And do recall, in the hospital, Marty told Rust, So we didn't get them all. That's not what kind of world this is. But we got ours.

They did.

And then, they exited, stage right.
 

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The Yellow King is a pre human entity- an old god, the eater of time. He is outside of rust's circle of time revelation.

The symbols and writing on the inside/outside of various building in the Childress compound are spells. Perhaps to open up portal to 'Infernal Plane'/Carcosa, that Childress talks about.

I think Rust did die but came back to life, Christ like. His reflection in the hospital monitor was iconic, the camera goes from a close up to a wider shot, that shows that Rust is something more as well. Go back and look at it.
 

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It occurs to me, as I speed view the series for the second time, that I really didn't get into the minutia of the plot. I've been focused on Rust from the get go. Interesting character. Magnetic.

I buy into the idea that Rust died and came back. I'm not certain how Christ-like it was, but he did have a moment of moral clarity that created optimism or even nirvana, total enlightenment, or rapture.
 
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The Yellow King is a pre human entity- an old god, the eater of time. He is outside of rust's circle of time revelation.

The symbols and writing on the inside/outside of various building in the Childress compound are spells. Perhaps to open up portal to 'Infernal Plane'/Carcosa, that Childress talks about.

I think Rust did die but came back to life, Christ like. His reflection in the hospital monitor was iconic, the camera goes from a close up to a wider shot, that shows that Rust is something more as well. Go back and look at it.
No offense intended in any way but I think you're overanalyzing and injecting plenty of stuff that isn't really there.
 

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I think Rust did die but came back to life, Christ like. His reflection in the hospital monitor was iconic, the camera goes from a close up to a wider shot, that shows that Rust is something more as well. Go back and look at it.

I noticed that too, thought what the Hesus is he doing there now. Then realized it was Rust. Don't think that was a coincidence.
 

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I'm feeling kinda stupid and shallow after reading about this show on here.

All along I thought it was a pretty cool 'whodunnit' cop show...but now I'm discovering it is all so much deeper ;)
 

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I think the creator of the series feels the same way lol :lol:

I'm not so sure. To me it was a very surprising conclusion. Not the whodunit, but the who-am-I that Rust asked himself at the end. Maggie, while being interviewed, told Beavis and Butt-Head that Rust knew who he was but Marty never knew himself. At the time I thought it a fair assessment. In reality Rust, in the wake of his near-death experience, found a deeper connection to humanity/spirituality/energy/life force and, for me, that was what the show was about.

Pulp fiction yes, but in the tradition of the best fiction it's really about the human condition as portrayed through the experience of one person.
 

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I think Rust did die but came back to life, Christ like. His reflection in the hospital monitor was iconic, the camera goes from a close up to a wider shot, that shows that Rust is something more as well. Go back and look at it.

I noticed the Christ thing, too.

All along I thought it was a pretty cool 'whodunnit' cop show...but now I'm discovering it is all so much deeper

I think the creator of the series feels the same way lol

This stuff is easy to play with. Throw it in there, and you look deep. It's not evidence of true intelligence, depth or, more importantly, good storycraft. That said, I enjoyed the show in spite of in annoying tendencies and contrivances.
 

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Childress was not the Yellow King. He was a minion of the Yellow king, a highly intelligent high priest.

This series unfolds like a classic Lovecraft story. Rust is the True Detective because he is able to see the truth of what is really happening. Very well written, many layers to this onion.

More like a Robert W. Chambers story... ;)
 

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Hmmm...that's way above my pay grade.

No offense intended in any way but I think you're overanalyzing and injecting plenty of stuff that isn't really there.


Lol, yeah maybe, I was an avid fantasy/scifi/horror reader in my youth. As others have mentioned in the previous TD thread, The Yellow King or The King In Yellow was a central motive in a collection of short stories by Robert W. Chambers. The book has been selling nicely since TD series referenced it. It is available as a free kindle download BTW.

Here is an excerpt from the book editors introduction:

To the extent that Robert W. Chambers (1865-1933) is remembered at all today, it is for "The King in Yellow", an odd collection of supernatural and "French" stories first published in 1895. It was followed by a few science-fiction comedies which are still reprinted from time to time, and then by dozens of popular historical romances and "society" novels, now long out of print and apparently unlamented. That he was originally an artist and friend of the famous Charles Dana Gibson is now mostly forgotten; knowing this, the reader can guess that Chambers was an art student in the Latin Quarter and attended the schools mentioned in his stories.

For his weird tales, Chambers took some names from Ambrose Bierce, and his own stories were later mined by H. P. Lovecraft and the pulp magazine writers of his circle. Such usage has kept "The King in Yellow", if not alive, then at least in the awareness of readers of the fantasy and horror genre. For all I know, the references have now spread to board games, rock music albums and cult television programs.

Like other readers of such literature, when I was young I enjoyed the supernatural stories in the first half of the book, but tended to skip over the tales of the artists' life in Paris in the second half. Indeed, several editions have omitted these stories entirely, substituting others more likely to appeal to the fantasy reader. However, as I grow older, the French stories appeal to me more and more. I am grateful for even a small glimpse into the author's youth in another time and place, now long gone. As an aside: the characters of these stories first appeared in Chambers' first book, "In the Quarter", which appeared in 1894.

What is "The King in Yellow" about? ("There are so many things which are impossible to explain"). The title refers to a book within our book, actually to a play in two acts, and to a supernatural character within that play who we suspect also exists outside of it. We know very little of the contents of the play, but discover that it drives the reader insane and damns his soul. Yet the book is said to be beautiful, expressing the "supreme note of art". As such, the device is a perfect one for the Decadent time in which it was created, suggesting the flowers of evil, the admixture of life and decay, beauty and malevolence.
 

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More like a Robert W. Chambers story... ;)

Looks like we posted at the same time.

H.P. Lovecraft was influenced by his stories and developed the themes even more. I haven't read the Chambers stories yet, but I am familiar with Lovecraft's style. The TD series uses similar plot devices as Lovecraft did within his Cthulu genre.
 

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I noticed the Christ thing, too.



This stuff is easy to play with. Throw it in there, and you look deep. It's not evidence of true intelligence, depth or, more importantly, good storycraft. That said, I enjoyed the show in spite of in annoying tendencies and contrivances.

That's the trick of flim/video, isn't it? a couple of well placed images, or even an unintended coupling of images, and you can have a conspiracy theory or additional layer of subtext to engage the viewer, either in support of or in contrast to the explicit narrative. I thought the cinematography was really well done on this first season, I wonder if they will be using the same crew or directors?
 

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I gotta say, I went back and looked at that several times... looks like the reflection of a thin white guy with long hair to me. Jesus? OK.

Maybe I'm not deep enough to get it.
 

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There were a dozen people in that video and it seems even more behind the cover-up.

They didn't manage to find the puppetmaster but they were at least able to put a stop to the actions of the person who did the dirty work.

Upon further review I think the reverend Tuttle could've been the puppet master/Yellow King and he offed himself, one way or another, via OD.
 
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