How Often Does Guitar Aesthetics (or Flaws) Get In The Way of Playing/Keeping Guitars

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  1. dreamingtele

    dreamingtele Friend of Leo's

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    I'm intrigued by this thought..

    My guitar tech just scratched his head when I told him I want to sell one of my guitars again because there's just aesthetic issues I cannot justify to myself even if it played REALLY good and sounded even better after all the set up he did... one thing he said to me is "Man, you play with your eyes"..

    I mean we have to love the look of the guitar too right??

    For me, I love the look of a rosewood board (Pau Ferro or other darker wood) on a tele, and pretty much any guitar.. I dont hate maple, but if its smooth, caramel colored (roasted), I might bite, but generally Im a rosewood kind of guy..

    same goes with the littlest of aesthetic issues, like F-hole was not cut really nicely, or paint runs somewhere not noticeable when Im playing, or maybe something that would really mess up my OC self.. I mean its ridiculous how Id end up selling perfectly playing and sounding guitars just because theres something I cannot rectify aesthetically (in my head) after the honeymoon phase ends.. my wife could only roll her eyes..

    The guitar Im talking about is this beautiful Epiphone Casino.. I bought it sight unseen and was delivered to me a week ago.. the aesthetic issues are, the strap button is not centered at the back, tooling marks on the fretboard when they scraped the binding on the neck, but other than that, It plays and sounds beautiful, but now I have put up an ad for it.. Im enjoying how it sounds while not being sold, but I would certainly miss it, and at the meantime Ive contacted a local store to notify me once a new 2019 one comes in so I can see it, play it, before I buy it.. I really want this tone, its just so warm and rich.. but I want a new one though..

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    I'm always okay buying used, little nicks, scratches here and there dont bother me... but there are times I find something, and then instantly put it up for sale.. I usually dont get what I paid for it, sometimes I make a little profit, most times I break even, but mostly sell at a loss.. and just end up buying new so at least I can return it.. but its not the same guitar.. oh well..

    I know if I want a step up in quality, why not buy an Elitist, well, the Elitist line doesnt do Cherry Red, and there's only a few options I have, scour Japan for a 90's MIJ Epiphone Casino, or even a Korean one, Peerless factory makes their own version, the Peerless Songbird, but I have no way of bringing them in to Oz, let alone have someone buy it for me there..

    or a Gibson ES330? I dont have the money for that, or justify such a high price for my playing needs..

    Oh well.. I need to stop rambling and just play with my eyes closed then? who else feels this way? or Im just too finnicky and OC to begin with?
     
  2. thunderbyrd

    thunderbyrd Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

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    I can tell you from experience that it's entirely likely that when a new one comes in, it won't please you the way this one does. keep the one you have. play the daylights out of it. quit being so picky.
     
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    I wish i didn't enjoy my PRS SE (Lollar P90s) so much, great playing and sounding guitar, the Lollars are the best sounding P90s i've ever heard by far but it's UGLY. Red with chrome hdwe and a body that is overly simplistic, i wish there was a way to dress it up some but so far, a good looking strap is it.
    Can't sell it because it's too cheap.
     
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    I’m looks/aesthetics conscious too, but my concerns have more to do with woodworking/joinery.
    I loathe off center seams and poorly matched grain.
    Admittedly, this has little to no effect on the functionality of the instrument.
    Unlike you, minor flaws in finishing or hardware does not bother me.
    My instruments are the tools I earn my living with, and as such, they get banged, dented, and worn.
    They have to look good (to me) and perform perfectly, again, for me.
     
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    I don't expect or need everything in my life to be perfect. And so I would keep it, play it and enjoy for what it is.

    Having said that, if someone has aesthetic sensibilities and requirements that will play an ongoing part in their overall opinion on a matter, then obviously their concerns are valid. Or to put it another way, if it's bugging you now then chances are it always will.
     
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    I do agree with you.. nine times out of ten, its not the same experience I had with the guitar I replaced it with..
     
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    The Casino is a genre on its own.. while I can still sell this, its a bit harder because it has its own little niche and I have a weird taste and most certainly the guitars I buy doesnt appeal to anyone else but me.. LOL

    Ive played PRS SE's, even with stock pickups, theyre great playing sounding guitars! but I havent found a PRS to bond with at the moment..
     
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    I usually wouldnt mind these things, but I did not imagine Id be loving the Casino.. I bought it to have a different tone than my tele's and I want to try this one out so I can get rid of the what if, instead of getting a more popular 335.. and I absolutely loved this one.. Im wrestling with the thought that I had the money, I wish I bought a newer one instead..
     
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    There's one guitar I kept because it just sounds so awesome, a Squier Tele partscaster.. it plays really well too.. but the poor workmanship and quality bugged me.. I forget it at times when I play it on gigs, and would instantly remember it when I clean it, or restring it.. it just always bugged me.. I gave it to my cousin when I left for another country and up to now, he loves it and plays it regularly..
     
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    I finally traded off my Casino (tobacco burst) but mainly because i am short and hollow / semi hollow bodies look enormous on me and very cumbersome to play. For a short while i had that john lennon / beatles sound going great.
     
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    I'm caring less about my guitars looks as time rolls bye. When I put a partscaster together I can get a bit obsessive over it but more recently I've been ballparking the look i'm after and concentrating more on creating the perfect playing, feeling, sounding guitar than on the finish. I owned a bunch of guitars that were really nice to look at but not that great to play so I sold them off.

    I'd rather invest the funds into comfortable good sounding gear that gets used than on nice display items.
     
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  12. dreamingtele

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    Maybe I should focus on this instead.. this is by far, my best playing guitar.. my AVRI62 plays well, but it needed a pro set up, fret level, bone nut, etc etc... this one, I set it up myself before it got to my tech, straight neck, very little relief, no fret buzz.. I was shocked! It plays and sounds great.. i think I just have to get over my OC-ness
     
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    No.

    We have to love how it makes us "look" to those who listen with their ears...if we trade "look" for sound.

    I care little for what my instrument looks like. I care about how well I use it. Case in point, I play a Strat that looks like it went through a war. It's beat to shiz, patina all over, the finish is worn off and the scratch plate is cracked.

    It looks terrible, it sounds like heaven.
     
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    This is that guitar.. apart from Aesthetic issues that I need to get over, It sounds like it should, and I love the way it feels and plays.. It was like playing a tele for the first time, I knew Im home.. this guitar made me experience that all over again..
     
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    This is also why I like light relics, guitars that I don't care about putting a scratch on. The guitars I sold were mostly mint. I didn't play them much because they didn't feel comfortable and I worried about damage on them because in the back of my mind I knew i'd probably sell them at some point if I didn't bond with them. That point in time took quite a few years because they were nice to look at. I replaced a couple with cheaper partscasters that play and sound better and i'm happy I did because they get used.

    My favourite les paul to play is my least attractive looking one. I didn't plan it that way.
    I bought it cheap with plans to flip after a play and ended up liking playing it that much it's the last les paul I would sell.
     
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    When I saw this thread title, I thought it was going to be about studiously watching the fretboard while we play. My second thought was, "Hey, if it's worked for Eric Johnson all these years..." :twisted:
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    Then close your eyes and give yourself the authority to play.
     
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    I’m rolling my eyes at you too.

    None of these “defects” you’ve described will ever be noticed by anyone you play this guitar for. Or even probably anyone who plays your guitar.
    The Casino is a fairly inexpensive import guitar. I’m not sure finding a perfect example is even possible and if it is would it sound as nice?
    But you know, there are plenty of aspects of my gear-hounding that would likely make plenty of people roll their eyes as well.
    I say enjoy a great looking and sounding guitar.
    But you’re the one whose gonna die when it’s your turn to die.
     
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    This is actually true.. I may just be obsessing.. and yes I dont have the guarantee I'll find another one that would sound as nice as this one..

    My AVRI 62 has dents and dings, but otherwise clean for it's age when I got it, but I never minded that one.. and that cost double or triple than this one!
     
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    If my hands could do that I’d have trouble looking away too:)
     
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