So, I've never had a tube amp at home.. I've played a Twin - I played it volume around 7. It was glorious. We played a very large outdoor venue.. It was my monitor at the same time, it was angled towards me, on my left side, hiding behind the lights and decorations of the stage, mic'ed.. Since then, I've always been after that clean tone. specifically, Fender clean tone. Amps I had in the Past (for Home use) Peavey Bandit 112 - MIC Fender Frontman 65R - MIM Peavey Envoy 110 Vox AD50VT I sold my last amp for financial reasons, and now I have spare change and looking for something small, that has really good clean tone, cheap, can be modded (IF I want to have a speaker swap), and something I can take to a small venue that can be mic'ed.. My rig: Tuner -> Chinese Klone -> LovePedal AMP11 -> Joyo American Sound -> DD20 -> RV-6 and I play an AVRI 62 - all stock, 11's string gauge I want to be very Fender-consistent thats why I have the American Sound in there.. I dont have a say in the venue's sound system.. sometimes I go straight to PA, sometimes there will be an amp, but I still want to sound like me, so Joyo is my "amp".. I set everything to flat and then EQ my Joyo to sound like the Bassman setting from Tech21.. but Once I find a Tech21 Blonde, I will replace the Joyo to see if I like it.. Also if I get a small Fender amp, the Joyo will go out of the board and I will bring it as a back up instead, because Im just after Fendery cleans. So I'm looking at few options, mainly on the VERY cheap side, in the low wattage category Tube Amps: Joyo JTA-05 "Sweet Baby" - Champ clone - This is what Im leaning towards as it's very cheap Bugera V5 Vox AC4 So far thats all I have researched, and for the reason that its available here in Oz.. I really want to get a tube amp this time, but how loud is 5 watts? I know low wattage and clean headroom doesnt go together, but I want to just play clean because I have my drive pedals.. 5 watts would probably break up super early, but I still want to be able to get good clean tones (mic'ed) when lets say I'm in a full band (2 guitars, bass, keys, drums, vocals).. My other option is Solid state amp (AGAIN) Solid State: Fender Champion 20 - I see good reviews here Fender Frontman 25R - Ive had the 65R, how bad can this be? Vox Pathfinder 15R Orange Crush So you think 5 watts would be okay?