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How loud do some bands play??? Am I old???

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Dr Improbable, Apr 11, 2021.

  1. cyclopean

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    Loud is absolutely not an illusion. What does yo yo ma have to do with any of this? If i went to go see Motörhead and they were playing at a whisper volume, I’d feel ripped off.

    Why don’t you want music to be a visceral experience that makes you live in the moment and takes you out of the inside of your head?
     
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    A little island in the Caribbean. It’s hideously expensive to get kegs shipped here and returned.
     
  3. cyclopean

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    Yeah if you don’t have a brewery nearby the shipping on those kegs must be killer.

    What’s an lp cost there in USD?
     
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    Are you really serious or just being a troll?
    I’m done with this thread
     
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    I've been to dozens of shows in all sizes of venues where there were bands that were nowhere near loud enough. And quite often on top of a terrible mix. They're called openers. It's total letdown.

    I've kind of been thinking about this today, and I would say that in a vast majority of cases, the tones that everyone drools about on this and every other forum, were made by amps that were "too loud". By definition, an amp that's distorting is "too loud". So, whether it was the fabled Layla Champ, or Page's Supro, or Angus' whatever in the studio, you have to ask yourself, would there be this rich, amazing history of rock and roll if no one ever turned their amp up?

    I've also heard ear-splitting 40 piece big bands, they're LOUD AS HELL. Any drummer in that genre will tell your their hearing is ruined by horns. No one tells them to turn down.
     
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    Good point here. I think the job of a good opening act is to play good enough to make the headlining band sweat a lil bit. It probably also contributes to a bit of a 'loudness war'.

    I saw an interview with Stevie Ray's amp tech. He said 'we would start the show with the amps on 5 or 6, and by the end of the set, everything was maxxed out.' The concert footage was an opening gig for B.B. King. SHeesh imagine the balls it takes to full SRV everything on 10 before BB comes out?..?..
     
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    Lay off the shrooms, brah.
     
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    No problem. I'll come down to visit and bring you some kegs. Let me know what kind of beer you like and how many years I can stay at your place.
     
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    that's on you and what's good to you, you like motor head , good on you, don't get me wrong I like getting pulverized on occasion
    can you hear the guitar playing with a full horn section? I like that,
    This America if you want brains over easy or scrambled you can get um any way you like um.
     
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    I went to loud shows when I was younger and our band played loud. Later on we learned to play quiet, too. I like dynamics.

    It’s good to be able to play the whole spectrum, depending on the context.

    The volume levels of the shows in small clubs I went to as a teenager would not go over at all these days.

    However, bands were free back then and didn’t have to worry about every little thing they did or said being potentially used against them on the internet.

    It would be really funny to take some of these new “punk rocker” kids to some of the shows I saw back then. They would be running for the door, covering their eyes and ears, getting kicked in the head, shrieking about their cracked-screen phones they will later use to whine about what offended them lately.
     
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    Why would any of that make you think I’m a troll. Are you a troll?

    That’s a really weird insult.
     
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    I promise you, live punk shows are still pretty damn loud most of the time, and i just posted a video in another thread of a punk show with indoor fireworks usage and people swinging from the rafters.

    “People are offended” is some really weird flex to try to delegitimize power dynamics shifting in ways they should have decades or centuries ago.
     
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    Catchphrases such as “weird flex” are invariably charged with the swarmer-origin baggage of their cultural root, whether Reddit, Twitter, the Chans, etc. They are coded by design to signal a particular ideology and elicit response from the group or groups signaled. There will always be a shifting, as power is mercurial and notoriously elusive to qualify.

    I admire your fastidiousness and protectiveness of punk and have enjoyed your input regarding it in other threads.

    I have no stake in what is now referred to as “punk.” An unsavory appraisal from a different perspective may be perceived as an attack on the ideology that initially buttressed the genre. My mild diatribe is not directed at the original movement, but rather, the dilettantes. If I was feeling particularly spicy, I might even suggest that punk itself was created by and for dilettantes, but I have a soft spot for those black and white Thrasher magazines.

    I know dilettantism all too well, for I was one myself in many areas of my life, and am one even today.

    The only safety pins I wore were on my letter jacket (I was Jockorama) and they represented every wrestler that I had dominated on the mat, with the corresponding time inscribed on them. Punk was my soundtrack for that testosterone-fueled adosecence, as I’m sure it still is today for many.

    I was a fervent proponent of the genre in my formative years, listened to it constantly, absorbed it’s key principles, and arrived at my own conclusions based on empirical evidence, but I owe it nothing.

    I once picked a knife up off a dirty club floor that was used to stab someone (or at least that is what they said,) while Henry Rollins shook his sweat on me, but the dangerousness of punk was not what attracted me to the music in the first place. It was the free expression of ideas that I loved.

    A post-internet stage performance (or musical act) is bound under a yoke of significant cultural restraint and social rules that simply were not there a couple decades ago.

    Of course, some things are decidedly better for entertainers (and certain groups in general now,) some things worse. Overbearing volume would be among the least offensive facets of a contemporary group in the punk genre, considering overwhelming social hopscotches and initiations of acquiescence inherent in crowd-sourced revaluations.

    I am sure there are still intimations of it’s aggression, angst (even self-destructiveness and rebelliousness,) going strong today, just as the carriers of fashion-thought-style torches in other pivotal musical movements must present an updated authenticity.

    The trappings of the much-argued terminology of what “punk” supposedly is and is not have been appropriated, hijacked, maligned, and capitalized on by acts such as Avril Lavigne, Blink 182, Green Day, etc. long after it’s relevance to many of it’s seminal voices, and yet, the ironic impetus of punk simply cannot coexist with the same impunity as it’s original namesake in an unreconciled system trenched in convenience, comfort, materialism, and rhetorical sedation.
     
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    Is this Lorem ipsum text or did you just eat a thesaurus?
     
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    That’s just me, I learned those words at the same time I was listening to “Lady Sniff” by The Butthole Surfers.
     
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    Everybody else plays too loud. Not me, I play just right.

    A band we were gigging with a few years ago started playing and they set off the car alarms in the parking spaces out front. That's loud.
     
  20. cyclopean

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    You’re certainly eliding the part of writing that’s about communication.
     
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