How Do You Monitor Your Modeller?

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My Pod Go has become my main pedal rig at church, not because I am completely satisfied with the sound or because it's my number one choice but because it's ease of travel. It's light, has basically all you need - it's an all in one solution.

Every Sunday, we Livestream as soon as we get done I'll go to the prayer room or cafe area, sit down and listen to the Livestream on my phone. It's not the best way to listen to the full mix but it's a GREAT way to monitor what's going on with my guitar specifically. It helps me go back and make any small changes to my settings for the following service which takes place a couple hours later.

When I get home, I'll beam it to the Google Chromecast and watch it on my TV, which also allows me to listen to it through the surround sound system. I know that's not the greatest way of monitoring my sounds and making modeling choices, but I'd guess this is closer than most other routes? It's hard to gauge as the Livestream doesn't pick up the fullness of a room.
 
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ABetterTelePlayer said:
My Pod Go has become my main pedal rig at church, not because I am completely satisfied with the sound or because it's my number one choice but because it's ease of travel. It's light, has basically all you need - it's an all in one solution.

Every Sunday, we Livestream as soon as we get done I'll go to the prayer room or cafe area, sit down and listen to the Livestream on my phone. It's not the best way to listen to the full mix but it's a GREAT way to monitor what's going on with my guitar specifically. It helps me go back and make any small changes to my settings for the following service which takes place a couple hours later.

When I get home, I'll beam it to the Google Chromecast and watch it on my TV, which also allows me to listen to it through the surround sound system. I know that's not the greatest way of monitoring my sounds and making modeling choices, but I'd guess this is closer than most other routes? It's hard to gauge as the Livestream doesn't pick up the fullness of a room.
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Terrible way to hear your modeller. Beats and Skull Candy headphones won’t give you ‘organic’ results either.
 
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Terrible way to hear your modeller. Beats and Skull Candy headphones won’t give you ‘organic’ results either.
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The $15.00 skull candy are working better than the Shure ones I had before....
www.sweetwater.com

Shure SE215-CL Sound Isolating Earphones - Clear

Single-driver In-ear Monitors with Detachable Kevlar Reinforced Cables and Accessories Kit - Clear
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com
And before that I had

Which were terrible.

The Skull Candy in ears are clear at least and don't get overloaded with bass at least but Aviom units are a different beast. It's different from say I pro-grade wireless unit that I had used before.

But also, I think the language barrier made me misunderstand your question. I am thought you were asking about the performance of the modeler such as levels, mix, things like that. Our soundman at church is a great sound engineer who does his own thing. There's no way of knowing how exactly my tone will sound and how I will be in the mix til I hear the Livestream which shows a fair comparison of how it was in room, live. It's far more accurate than hearing your tone through the in-ears regardless of how good of monitors you have.
 
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ABetterTelePlayer said:
The $15.00 skull candy are working better than the Shure ones I had before....
www.sweetwater.com

Shure SE215-CL Sound Isolating Earphones - Clear

Single-driver In-ear Monitors with Detachable Kevlar Reinforced Cables and Accessories Kit - Clear
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com
And before that I had

Which were terrible.

The Skull Candy in ears are clear at least and don't get overloaded with bass at least but Aviom units are a different beast. It's different from say I pro-grade wireless unit that I had used before.

But also, I think the language barrier made me misunderstand your question. I am thought you were asking about the performance of the modeler such as levels, mix, things like that. Our soundman at church is a great sound engineer who does his own thing. There's no way of knowing how exactly my tone will sound and how I will be in the mix til I hear the Livestream which shows a fair comparison of how it was in room, live. It's far more accurate than hearing your tone through the in-ears regardless of how good of monitors you have.
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None of these are proper monitoring.
 
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This is my home setup. Focusrite 2i2 audio interface into a 27" iMac running Presonus Studio one.
My monitors are also Presonus, The Eris E5 set. I sold the GT-1000 a few months ago.
I run the line out from the Nextone to the Focusrite when I want to record.

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i run a mono (left) output from my strymon Iridium, without the cab section, directly into the front of my Mesa boogie Mark 2b head (60 watts), running thru any of my 4 cabinets.

i set the amp to flat clean.
all drive from the Iridium.

i tweak the TMB and presence to match the sound i get with the IR and cab direct.

the RIGHT output (with CAB and mic function on, mono AND CHOICE of mono IR) i run direct to FOH.
 
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bobio said:
This is my home setup. Focusrite 2i2 audio interface into a 27" iMac running Presonus Studio one.
My monitors are also Presonus, The Eris E5 set. I sold the GT-1000 a few months ago.
I run the line out from the Nextone to the Focusrite when I want to record.

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Those look like reasonably sized monitors. My YorkVilles are pigs, but they sound SO good. And for $100 used for the pair, they were a no brainer.

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I said this elsewhere already... but it depends...

TLDR: it's mostly HX Stomp content with "how" rather than "what." Skip if not interested. BTW, I use HX Stomp as a standalone device for live. No other pedals.

For live with stage volume:
Route one signal from my HX Stomp without cab-sim to clean SS power amp/guitar speaker cabinet while sending another signal with cab-sim to FOH. This is my preferred method and using a real guitar speaker cabinet (without cab-sim) rather than FRFR (with cab-sim) sounds best to me. But more and more, I'm okay with just using whatever floor monitor available to avoid carrying speaker cabinet/power amp.

For live with IEM:
My main output from HX Stomp goes to FOH. Then, route incoming monitoring signal from the mixer (minus mine) and feed it into HX Stomp's RETURN/AUX-IN. I blend that with my main signal and route it to SEND on HX Stomp. The headphone setting on HX Stomp is set to only playback SEND. So now I get both direct signal + mixed signal (minus mine) in my IEM. I find that if I monitor the signal that I get back from FOH, it doesn't sound good in IEMs due to EQ, compression, wireless latency, and/or other processing applied to the signal.

As for IEM themselves, I've been using KZ ZS10 ($30 hifi earbuds with 5 drivers per side) for 5 years now. I have compared them side-by-side with +$400 IEMs and they are just as good if not better. ZS10's frequency response is pretty flat with slight laid back mids (useful for a dense mix) and slight bump in the lows. I like the lows when playing alone but in a band setting, it depends. As a remedy, an EQ block is saved in HX Stomp to balance the lows, and at times when bass get a little heavy, only then I enable the EQ to compensate but I have yet to find the need for it. This EQ is placed on the SEND route so it does not affect the main output to FOH.

At home:
Depends what I feel like. At times when I don't want stuff shoved in my ear canal, I use open back headphones. At times when I don't want something on my head, I use studio monitors. At times when I don't want to be tied to a desk, I use NUX Mighty Plug Pro with a small portable speaker.
 
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