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How did Fender drill for truss rod in one piece neck?

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by TenaciousP, Jan 26, 2021.

  1. Marn99

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    In this video, taken at the Corona factory, you can see how they set up the drill presses to do it currently at around 23:44.
     
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    Here is the rod and nut. I divided the rod in the middle and mirrored it. The nut is at 3 degrees in red. Not that much different really.




    truss rod 3 degrees.JPG
     
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    Wow, well spotted Marn99!
     
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    Interesting.... It would be nice to just have one angle setup for both ends.
     
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    Actually, in the first (short) video you posted, that same screen is shown. I noticed it last night. Definitely doing the headstock end with the same drill press setup.
     
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    If you had a 1/4" thick fretboard, your nut would be cutting into it a little.
     
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    I can’t find it in this video at 23:44. Is it something plainly visible or should I be looking in the background? Ha ha!
     
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    actually, I think on the rosewood slab fretboard necks, the nut counterbore did cut into the bottom side of the fretboard a little.
     
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    I haven’t read all of the above threads, but my guess this was and still is done with a gun-drill.

    Gun drilling is type of drilling process that uses a special drill that plots itself after entering a pre-drilled and bored pilot hole.

    Chips created in the drilling process (wood, steel, aluminum etc.) are evacuated down a flute on the drill and out of the part by high-pressure thru-coolant.
     
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    Incredible footage. Thank you.

    My level of gratitude just shot up for this wonderful instrument.
     
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    That and it also wasn't ¼" -- more like 3/16 (before they switched to the veneer boards).

    59_strat-1_7.jpg
     
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    The blue tilted drill presses on the left.
     
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    My understanding...and I went to the Fender factory and took the $10 tour...so I'm a total expert...is that they do the truss rod three ways.

    1. Skunk Stripe. They route the back and fill with a wooden plug. That's the obvious one.

    2. Capped neck with rosewood or Pau Ferro - This way, they route a slot under the fingerboard, put in the truss rod and glue the fingerboard on top.

    3. Maple Cap - This is done the same way as #2, but they use matching maple for the board. It LOOKS like one piece, but it's a cap neck, same as rosewood.

    1-piece neck seems like a real POA and I'm not sure it gives any sort of advantage over maple-cap.

    I prefer capped necks to skunk stripe...just a thing with me.

    I'll be reading more to see if someone has a drill that long.
     
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    From what l've seen in fender's factory tour they don't show how its done. But it so accurate and probably done with a router by computer. Maybe some could do it by hand but you have to be very accurate. Maybe at the start its drilled to a certain point. And then routered for the rest. Its so accurate you couldn't put a feeler gauge inside. In other words its sealed.
     
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    Take a look at at the '53 cnc build thread.


    '53 CNC build | Telecaster Guitar Forum (tdpri.com)
     
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    Hey! thanks for the vedeo never seen that one before. Everything was done by hand.
     
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    I post this at the risk of appearing MUCH less than knowledgeable regard machining wood or metal. That said, as I was reading the initial post above I couldn't help recalling the "skunk stripe" on the back of Fender necks. Here's a picture of the back of the neck of a 1952 Fender Telecaster currently listed on Reverb for $49,500.00 [​IMG]
     
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    We're talking about 1950s technology , I'm not a real skilled woodworker but it had to be pretty basic woodworking , but beyond my ability anyway .
     
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    It was and still is drilled from the HEAL end of the neck, using a jig, NOT from the headstock end. Except now, it's not done using a vertical drill press (ref the 1959 factory tour vid). Warmoth is one company that drills their one-piece the same way as Fender does today.
     
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    After watching this I have to say Leo would be astounded at how the "working man's " guitar he made has evolved into a company known the world around as a leader in the industry , and how much in demand and how revered the equipment bearing his name is . Thank you Leo !
     
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