How consistent are the MIC Epiphone Casino's?

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by SixShooter, Apr 22, 2015.

  1. SixShooter

    SixShooter Friend of Leo's

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    I'm considering picking up a used Casino via ebay or other mail order situation. How consistent are these from one guitar to another?
     
  2. john_cribbin

    john_cribbin Tele-Afflicted

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    Depends on age. The early Epi's had variable quality as they transitioned from Korea. The quality has improved greatly over the years and some reviews suggest they are now producing equal or better to Korea. If I was going to put a date on it, I'd be confident buying anything from Epiphone post 2010.
     
  3. strummer tele

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    Dude, most of this talk about quality at different plants over various years is nothing to get worked up over. I have a Chinese Casino and a Korean Casino, I have other guitars from Japan, USA, Mexico, Indonesia...there is no location that supplies the most perfect guitar, nor is there a location that supplies constant junk. If you buy a name brand guitar - and Epiphone is - you will most likely receive a well made instrument. Do some clunkers sneak through? Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the country of origin. USA guitas can be clunkers just as an Indonesian guitar can be.

    Get yourself a Casino and don't worry about the site of origin. Just listen to the guitar as you play it. If it sounds fine, its a keeper whether it was made in Korea or China.
     
  4. screamin eagle

    screamin eagle Poster Extraordinaire

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    I agree with this and if you have some annoying buzzing swap out that bridge witht the retaining wire. Those rattle on lots of guitars, not just casinos. A good setup goes a long way on any guitar.
     
  5. SixShooter

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    Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll go for it.
     
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    Mine is a 2014 and after a set up it plays like butter.

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  7. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    I agree with strummer 100 %, that really NAILS it. They go on and on about this in the Epi and Les Paul forums............cork sniffer kind of stuff really.
     
  8. SixShooter

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    What aspects did they address in the setup?
     
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    Same as any other guitar...action, intonation, filed the but slots, took care of a couple rough fret ends and polished the frets. Otherwise the neck was perfect and did not need a level or crown.

    The one thing I did notice about these guitars is their set-ups from the factory were all over the place. Mine was probably one of the worst i have ever seen. The nut was cut so high it was ridiculous, but I loved the color, so I pulled the trigger anyway. I think that may be why some people trash these newer ones. Epiphone needs to step up their game with their set ups and just give them a little more TLC so they feel a little better off the shelf. Their acoustics usually have wonderful set-ups from the factory, but their electrics seems to be lacking. But the one consistent thing is the fit and finish of the new ones have pretty much all been superb.

    It's pretty much like any other low to mid-level guitar. Once you get a proper set-up they are usually wonderful instruments. The pickups are a subjective thing (again, just like a lot of mid-level guitars!). I didn't like them because they are vert hot, and I wanted a more authentic, old-school sound, so I put in some Fralins, and while I was at it, figured I'd add a Bigsby and a 50's wiring harness. None if this is necessary, and I usually am a strong opponent of doing mods on a new guitar, but in this case it made a gigantic difference, and I would play this guitar up against ANYTHING else. It easily holds it own in fit, finish, quality, playability and sound-wise up against any of my other guitars, including a 52AVRI, SG Standard, SG Classic, etc.

    I really think the current Epiphone electrics are great bargains and wonderful instruments, ESPECIALLY now that Gibson is doing some strange things with their new guitars, increased prices, etc. Just spend the extra money for a good basic set-up and you're in business! And even if you swap out some stuff like pickups, etc. they still end up costing so much less than a Gibson equivalent.
     
  10. 5ive1ne4our

    5ive1ne4our TDPRI Member

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    I bought a 2014 (MIC) Casino Coupe. The knobs were a tad crooked, I fixed that by gently pushing them straight. There's a tiny bit of finish bleed on parts of the binding, I couldn't care less. Even as a hollow body, I fully intend to push this thing to its work-horse limits. I've played several Korean and Chinese made Sheratons and Casinos. I trust my hands and ears, and ignore the "made in X" label.

    I'd have to agree on the cork sniffing.

    Just a heads up, every epi I've played recently at local shops has been set up just awfully out of the box. They just need a little love. After a quick set up mine plays great, love it!

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  11. johnb

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    They are built very well but I'll pile on as well about the setup.
    Not a Casino but a MIC ES-339. All 6 that I played needed to be setup. Either too much or too little neck relief, the bridge was too high, the break angle of the strings over the bridge wasn't right, and the frets HAD to be polished.
    After tweaking the one I almost kept (finish cracks) and the one I did keep (perfect finish) play very good. It's only my playing that kept me from saying excellent.
    You can read about my experience here - http://www.tdpri.com/forum/other-gu...73-ngd-epiphone-es339-custom.html#post6386466

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    Thanks for the info and encouragement. I'm gonna go for it.
     
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    You won't regret it and you'll be super happy you got yourself a Casino. All Casino owners know they got a guitar that is an absolute gem at an insane price. The Casino is the best bang-for-buck guitar in the world; a nice little secret that Casino owners are happy to share. Fantastic guitar at a great price...you'll be super happy when you get yours.

    The Casino is so great I had to have two. No other guitar I own made me want a second one of the same model. Only a Casino can do that.

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  14. w3stie

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    Most Casinos are a bit of a gamble.
     
  15. sjtalon

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    and you have owned how many ???
     
  16. w3stie

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    Guitars or casinos?

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    I have a Riviera P93, which I think is very much from the same family tree as the Casino. I've known people complain about iffy electrics in these guitars but, to be honest, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever wrong with mine. I'm sure the pots and wiring are cheap, but they do what they're supposed to do — the pots are all nicely graded and don't crackle, the action is low and fast with no irregular frets, and it stays in tune. All I did was lube the nut and the Bigsby. The guitar gets regular, but light, use. Were I using it several times a week for gigs then I'd go for a full-on CTS/Switchcraft wiring harness and new tuners just to be on the safe side. But as things stand, it's just fine.
     

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