How common was it to shave down tele bodies and why?

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I got to play a very... let's say venerable tele today. I was told it was a 60's but I have no idea if that was true or if it was even an original guitar and not a partscaster. The Fender logo was nearly gone but the hardware all seemed 60's correct at a cursory inspection.

It had suffered a lot of abuse. Aside from being completely refin'd at some point it had been converted to two humbuckers and back... allegedly the original bridge was back on it but the pickguard isn't original. Whatever its paint job was was completely gone and replaced with decent looking transparent finish, not new by any means.

But what struck me was that the top had definitely been planed or shaved down by more than a couple mm. The neck appeared to be sitting fully flat in the pocket, but the fingerboard was very high off the top and a lot of the truss rod adjustment was visible over the pickguard. The saddles were correspondingly raised almost to their limits. If I had to guess I'd say the fingerboard may have been like 7/16" off the top of the guitar. For all that, it did play very nicely.

The owner kept trying to hard sell it to me glossing over its flaws, not that I could remotely afford it, but once he stepped away, the employee agreed that it had clearly been shaved down and he said he thought that was very common at one time during the age when old teles were practically worthless. FWIW if I got a very good deal on such an instrument I think the only thing that would bother me was the board radius... but even that I think I could come to love. Despite the abuse it was a beautiful tele with great patina on the neck.

Was this just done for weight relief? How common was this?
 

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I got to play a very... let's say venerable tele today. I was told it was a 60's but I have no idea if that was true or if it was even an original guitar and not a partscaster. The Fender logo was nearly gone but the hardware all seemed 60's correct at a cursory inspection.

It had suffered a lot of abuse. Aside from being completely refin'd at some point it had been converted to two humbuckers and back... allegedly the original bridge was back on it but the pickguard isn't original. Whatever its paint job was was completely gone and replaced with decent looking transparent finish, not new by any means.

But what struck me was that the top had definitely been planed or shaved down by more than a couple mm. The neck appeared to be sitting fully flat in the pocket, but the fingerboard was very high off the top and a lot of the truss rod adjustment was visible over the pickguard. The saddles were correspondingly raised almost to their limits. If I had to guess I'd say the fingerboard may have been like 7/16" off the top of the guitar. For all that, it did play very nicely.

The owner kept trying to hard sell it to me glossing over its flaws, not that I could remotely afford it, but once he stepped away, the employee agreed that it had clearly been shaved down and he said he thought that was very common at one time during the age when old teles were practically worthless. FWIW if I got a very good deal on such an instrument I think the only thing that would bother me was the board radius... but even that I think I could come to love. Despite the abuse it was a beautiful tele with great patina on the neck.

Was this just done for weight relief? How common was this?

No. The explanation is BS. Walk away. Go look at the bazillion guitars that don't have stories or excuses.
 
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I carved a belly cut and that Strat sweep on the top on a '53. when I did that in 1971 it was just an old guitar. also, it had been hacked before I got it and was missing the neck pup. $75 though in '70 when I got it
What happened to it I might own it lol
 

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Guitar shop staff level of moronic claims reached new lows.

Nope, that was never “common” and “old Teles” were never “practically worthless”.

Creative ideas about why some idiot might plane the top down seem less plausible than it simply being an old neck on a cheap import body like a 1 1/2” thick Squier body.

Not impossible to have flattened a bad attempt at who knows what like carved decoration or belt sander refin.
But what the staff is on is a better question!
 

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That'll be a new thing now. Shaved body, lighter weight and more resonant. Don't laugh, we had posts about freezing bodies and putting them in an oven, shaving sounds almost reasonable.😂
There's a lot of that chat been going about for decades, after Chris Squire took his famous RM1999 Rick bass to a London shop to get the wallpaper he'd plastered it with taken off. The luthier guy shaved off a few mm in the process, and applied a lacquer. The lighter body now supposedly, along with the lacquer, affected the tone.

'His tech applied a cream lacquer finish to the bass, which now weighed a bit less than a regular Rickenbacker: this was a factor in its sound, said Squire, although it’s unknown if this was ever professionally assessed. His signature 4001CS bass, when it was launched in 1991, didn’t sound exactly like the original, though, so maybe he was onto something.' - Guitarworld, 2022.
 

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Actually read what I posted. No bogus claim was being made by the guitar store. The top was visibly shaved down, I mentioned it first and the employee realized I was right after I pointed out the bridge and the fingerboard relief.

And it’s not like I was about to be “fooled” into buying it, it’s about $1k out of my price range.
 
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