How accurate is the black Fender 5 hole Pure Vintage pickguard?

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You should get the pure vintage dome knobs. Fender also sells slightly cheaper different type of dome knob set, which doesn't look as good as the pure vintage dome knobs. I have both of them. It's subtle but knurling on the PV dome knobs is heavier and easier to turn as well.
I noticed that too. The PV stuff is the main way I want to go. There are some road worn Fender parts. Not sure how they compare.
 

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FWIW brass saddles will age themselves pretty quickly so as long as you find a bridge plate aged to your satisfaction most any type of brass saddles will match in short time.
 

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I asked a similar question here once, apparently the 52's used Forbon, a type of compressed cardboard...? Out of all the specs that could be hard to reproduce, why can't Fender make an original guard?
 

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I've got black pickguards from multiple years in my parts bin. What I've noticed is...

The current 'Pure Vintage' '52/AO pickguard has a matt finish (front and back), where a '98 AV '52 Tele came with a lacquered (on the front only) pickguard (I have both). Some of the newer Fender Road Worn '50s Teles made after 2012 have a similar guard to this '98-'12 example. My RW is from 2013 and the guard is very similar to a '98-'12 AV52RI, in that it's lacquered on the front.

Your best bet (and what I would get) is the stock (2012-date) Pure Vintage '52 pickguard - not accurate to a '98 '52RI, but the best current 'Fender' replacement.

But I agree with others who say Fender should be making an accurate after-market '50-'54 Black Pickguard (lacquered and all).
 
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I bought this generic one on eBay for a Partscaster build. It came raw satin black and I sprayed gloss nitro over it.

It looks the part.


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FWIW This is the 51 Nocaster I build about 4 years ago now (this pic was 1 year later, and heavy playing). I used USA made Fender parts as much as I could, and also the Pure Vintage is the way to go IMO. Very good quality with the PV parts. As @jfgesquire points out, I too used the bakelite guard he did and nitro'd over it. Below is a pic of it after about 2 years of heavy playing. I also used the Custom Shop Nocaster pickups, and I love em.
 

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FWIW This is the 51 Nocaster I build about 4 years ago now (this pic was 1 year later, and heavy playing). I used USA made Fender parts as much as I could, and also the Pure Vintage is the way to go IMO. Very good quality with the PV parts. As @jfgesquire points out, I too used the bakelite guard he did and nitro'd over it. Below is a pic of it after about 2 years of heavy playing. I also used the Custom Shop Nocaster pickups, and I love em.
Our builds were very similar. I think we were influenced by the same extraterrestrial!

Did you get the "thermometer" case?

This is before I glossed the guard...

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Our builds were very similar. I think we were influenced by the same extraterrestrial!

Did you get the "thermometer" case?

This is before I glossed the guard...

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LOL!!! Yepperz!!! At first I had her in a 50's style tweed case because I couldn't find a thermometer case at the time, but since then I've relegated her to a thermo case and put my 54 Strat in the tweed ;) The thermo case isn't as accommodating as the tweed was, but oh man does she look SWEET in it just like yours! 😍 Whenever I open that thermo case I think to myself "Hello baby... gosh you look good resting in that case" :cool:
 

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I've got black pickguards from multiple years in my parts bin. What I've noticed is...

The current 'Pure Vintage' '52/AO pickguard has a matt finish (front and back), where a '98 AV '52 Tele came with a lacquered (on the front only) pickguard (I have both). Some of the newer Fender Road Worn '50s Teles made after 2012 have a similar guard to this '98-'12 example. My RW is from 2013 and the guard is very similar to a '98-'12 AV52RI, in that it's lacquered on the front.

Your best bet (and what I would get) is the stock (2012-date) Pure Vintage '52 pickguard - not accurate to a '98 '52RI, but the best current 'Fender' replacement.

But I agree with others who say Fender should be making an accurate after-market '50-'54 Black Pickguard (lacquered and all).
Great info! Thanks! Gives me something to think about. I kind of like the idea of a gloss pickguard being aged over time than a straight matte. Didn't know the AVRI pickguards were lacquered on the front.
 

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I’ve never given much thought to the pickguard that’s on my older Squier pine body CV. It’s not something I think about unless I’m among the posters here. Everything that needed replacement( neck, tuners, saddles, bridge plate) I replaced. Now I’m worrying about the ******* pickguard.
 

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LOL!!! Yepperz!!! At first I had her in a 50's style tweed case because I couldn't find a thermometer case at the time, but since then I've relegated her to a thermo case and put my 54 Strat in the tweed ;) The thermo case isn't as accommodating as the tweed was, but oh man does she look SWEET in it just like yours! 😍 Whenever I open that thermo case I think to myself "Hello baby... gosh you look good resting in that case" :cool:
My guitars don't age, at all; even used ones end up looking better.

To keep this on point, I have never seen repro guitars match the wear on authentic blackguards. (Except maybe Nacho.) I think buying a bakelite or similar resin guard and spraying it clear then playing it regularly like it's a tool and not a piece of art is the only way to get it to look right.

I haven't seen my nocaster for 6 months. I gave it to my brother to play it like he stole it until I finish his rosewood telecaster build. He can corrode coated strings in 2 weeks.
 

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I bought a Fender reissue black guard and I believe it is phenolic plastic with a nitro top coat.
Parts no. 0992019000 "made in USA"

"Bakelite" was a type of phenolic plastic. If you want to test for phenolic plastic, give it a little rub with sandpaper and if it smells like formaldehyde it's the real deal. Don't breathe too much of it! WD also sells them, but you need to put on the nitro top coat yourself.
 

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playing it regularly like it's a tool and not a piece of art is the only way to get it to look right.

Yep. Pretty much. While I could've easily relic'd my build, I knew it was going to be used and gigged with regularly so I thought "Hmmm.... I just wonder how she'll look after a while?" I only have a few guitars that I gig with, and many I have collected for various reasons, the latter stay in perfect condition. The ones I gig with though, they get used as tools. Here's some pics of my 51 after just 2 years of using her. This is all natural wear and tear, nothing fake here ;) Imagine 50-60 years from now what she'll look like if she's allowed to take the natural progression of relic :cool: These pics are a couple years old now, and she's moved further along since then, but gives an idea anyway. I really need to take more recent pics of her, and better ones too. I'll get around to that at some point ;)
 

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Great info! Thanks! Gives me something to think about. I kind of like the idea of a gloss pickguard being aged over time than a straight matte. Didn't know the AVRI pickguards were lacquered on the front.

For this, you may also want to consider the black bakelite pickguard from Callaham

From their website:
"Made from black fiberboard (bakelite). It is lacquered and polished and like the original has the 5" diameter circle on the back"

I put it on my 1951 Telecaster Tribute and it is great!
 

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For this, you may also want to consider the black bakelite pickguard from Callaham

From their website:
"Made from black fiberboard (bakelite). It is lacquered and polished and like the original has the 5" diameter circle on the back"

I put it on my 1951 Telecaster Tribute and it is great!
Looks amazing! Right now that is the front runner. That or one from an AVRI.
 

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Callaham makes the correct 52 style Bakelite lacquered guard. $62

About 8 yrs ago you could still find the Fender AVRI Bakelite shiny lacquered guards for like $30. My last one was spot on. Might have even been made in Mexico but it was what the early 2000s 52 Reissue came stock with. Much nicer than the Pure Vintage.
 




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