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Hot Take: RWRP is overrated

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by Blues Twanger, Jan 28, 2021.

  1. Blues Twanger

    Blues Twanger Tele-Afflicted

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    Discussion time!

    A few years back I stopped caring if I had a rw/rp middle pickup. I don't go crazy with wiring mods but I do typically add some sort of neck and bridge together option.

    I see folks hem and haw and stress about hum cancelling when mixing pickups or using funky wiring, I used to be one of them, but then I stopped caring. Things are simpler.

    When is hum really all that bothersome? When you aren't playing. So why isn't your volume off when you stop playing? That's good practice.

    Aaaaaand, GO!
     
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    I’m with you, but I also rarely use positions 2 & 4.

    In general, single coil buzz doesn’t bother me.
     
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    I had vintage pickup set in a telecaster once that wasn't RWRP.
    They sounded great together - even with the hum. More alive or more complex, maybe?

    I'm sure someone else will know why (or how to prove me wrong!), but I began to think that hum isn't the only thing that RWRP cancels between two positions.

    *says the guy whose #1 is loaded with two minihumbuckers. . . :rolleyes:
     
  4. DrewB

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    I have a set of Rose Robusta/Robusta/Buff Beauty pups on-order with non-RWRP middle pup. I have always felt 2 & 4 were a bit muffled with RWRP, but I'm not a Strat diehard by any means. I'm hoping these pups make me want to use those positions.
     
  5. Flaneur

    Flaneur Friend of Leo's

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    Never use the Quack positions. The only combination I must have on a Strat, is bridge and neck together. That- and a good middle pickup- are the two tones that work, for me.

    I can understand other folks being more versatile- or picky- with their guitars. That's a big part of the fun, for many players. I like a simple rig, a few core sounds and very little to go wrong. No-one will hear the single coil hum, in a mix with a drummer, keys player and a Steel guy........:)
     
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  6. AJBaker

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    I don't really care, as I've never had much problem with hum.

    That being said, if a venue is particularly noisy, having the noise free position can be handy!
     
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  7. theprofessor

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    I totally agree. And I’m also beginning to wonder whether vacuum wax potting is really best, too. I understand why people want to kill hum and reduce squeal, but I’m beginning to think that there is some loss involved as well.
     
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  8. Anacharsis

    Anacharsis Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    I have Fender PV 59 pickups in a MIM Standard Strat. No RWRP middle, reflecting the old school reality. They sound great. It can be handy to have the noise canceling in some circumstances, and I left my American Professionals stock.
     
  9. Blues Twanger

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    Seems like it may be one of those problems that comes up more often online than in practice. I'm not saying there isn't a use or a place for it but so much digital real estate is dedicated to the issue you'd think a strat MUST have a RWRP middle to be correct.
     
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    adjason Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

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    yeah does not bother me either (and I am in a minority but I think shielding is bad for tone:)
     
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    I find hum a whole lot less annoying than those wimpy quack tones.
     
  12. Blues Twanger

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    You win the thread.
     
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  13. richiek65

    richiek65 Friend of Leo's

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    I love the quack!
     
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    well, as much as i hate the quack on a strat, on a two pickup guitar like a tele or JM, i often use the middle position for rock stuff (for sound and not for cancellation), so it's a nice thing to have it not hum when i'm playing with a lot of gain - hum can get really sucky and noticeable when you're playing up high on the neck and you have a fuzz face on. I would actually be interested in RWRP between bridge and neck in my strat and using them instead of the middle pickup for the middle position...maybe i'll just swap middle and bridge pickups.
     
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    I have a Tele bridge and neck pickup of the same polarity and have been debating whether to wire them up. Now that I think about it, a Tele is not really known for having a 'polite' sound, for lack of a better word. I think I've made up my mind.
     
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    Gain much? Then RWRP.
     
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    Wow. winding shaming is real.
     
  18. Billy3

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    Why are we talking about this? Wire your ax the way you like it. More is better as long as you have the original settings to fall back on. Keep on pickin!
     
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    I have strats with rwrp and strats without.
    I do tend to use the bridge/ middle the most in any case.

    i set the pickup heights to minimize the quack, use a single tone control for all pickups,
    then usually run it through a rangemaster or fuzz face-
    Very little quack remains then.
    It sounds kind of grainy, lots of character.

    with the amount of gain i use, the hum is pretty loud.
    The rwrp comes in handy, but its not crazy important.

    the strats without a rwrp pickup in them i equip with a dummy coil to cut the hum down a bit.
     
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    I'm not a strat guy but I guess I never realized they had more than one pickup... :twisted:
     
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