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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by effzee, Apr 23, 2021.
It might be the next Bitcoin
Aint that the truth!
My Taylor214 CE is a composite of pressed Rosewood- Plywood- Rosewood.
Wood is generally hard to come by. Builders here in Oz have paid $3,000 per container for Pine for house frames. That is now $9,000+ . Steel frames are used more often and wood is hard to get in Australia ( by the ton i.e.).
I know quite a few ppl here in Bavaria who own a few hectares of forest, usually passed down through generations. A couple of them sell firewood as a side business. Right now, they're actually selling to sales agents who are exporting the wood to the USA. That's really bizarre. No one understands how it could possibly be cost effective for the US to import wood from Germany. It's a topsy turvy world at the moment.
I gottta few brand new sheets of 3/4" severe weather max if anyone has a nice LP or 335 they'd like to trade plus some cash on their end. LOL
Purchased 1 Sheet 2 days ago 5/8" cdx 65.00. Insanity?
2x4" DF 9.20 each.
Yeah that is beyond nuts.
Strangely at my area Lowes where I have blown probably 50k+ in the last five years while constructing has 2x6's for not much more than I was paying on the previous high end prices. But plywood and OSB is just sky high. Last batch I bought early in 2020 for a porch roof I built I paid $34 a sheet for actual 1/2" plywood and I thought that was absolutely nuts as previously i had been paying 18-22 bucks per sheet. I thought $22 was high. I should have bought stacks of the stuff and covered it on slats in the yard I could've made bank.....
Are we running out of trees, lumberjacks or sawmills?
German wood has the best tone for framing houses.
Hmmm. Soon, "Flipping" a house will mean buying an old 'fixer upper' frame house, stripping it down and selling the wood. Vintage wood, vintage nails, etc.
If they pull the plywood from the bottom of a lake does it add a premium to the price? I wonder what 5/8" "Sinker" ply would go for?
Word is around here that new build construction projects have stopped pre-selling due to nobody knowing what materials are going to cost.
The way I heard it, when things were first shut down a year ago, lumber mills closed, thinking that demand will drop. The opposite happened and not only are they scrambling to catch up, there's a limit to how much that can be harvested in a year.
Many are asking what is going on, since wood has jumped in price yet you pull up to any lumber yard and there doesn't seem to be a shortage.
I am lucky. I decided to repurpose some plywood and have salvaged some 2x4s from a few renovation jobs. I have a shed full of wood that my wife was hinting we should clean out.
I think I saw sheathing and underlayment, priced higher than birch ply at Lowes last week...anybody know much about the new Super-ply? looks like strips or threads of Poplar lined up and glued together? Talking about for cab material. Supposed to be stainable and paintable.
3 months ago, I bought an Alder board to test shellac mixes. Went to get another last night amd the price has jumped from $12 to $25
That’s not as far fetched as it may seem. This Old House did something fairly similar on a recent project when they discovered some old lumber during demolition. They aired a whole segment about how you can’t get straight grained lumber like that anymore, and it was worth it to them to do tons of extra work in order to reuse the wood on their project. So buying flip houses and reselling the “vintage wood framing” is quite plausibly on the horizon. It’s probably already happening.
I've been through several plywood forests in Canada.
They're really narrow.
That has been going on for years, especially in big cities as old factories and other large wood-frame buildings are demolished to be replaced by high-dollar housing/shopping construction. Those salvaged timbers go for big money.
Carmine Street Guitars in NYC uses pine from these old buildings to make Telecaster copies.
That's sort of why I wrote that. Pretty common to start stripping out suddenly expensive components for resale. When the copper market spiked in the late 80s, thieves were stripping homes under construction of copper wiring. The new-build house we bought in 1988 had been stripped while it was under construction (they hit the whole subdivision) and had to be re-wired.
There are large numbers of vacant houses all over the country. Whole ghost towns, etc. When the price of lumber gets high enough, they won't be bulldozed, they'll be taken apart and "recycled" for profit.
I have a banjo built out of reclaimed maple flooring from an 1800s cotton mill up in MA. It is seriously heavy...15lbs+
I'm good on solid woods (maple, mahog, walnut) but I have several plywood projects that are going to be a problem if the prices don't come back down. I gotta make storage cabinets for the Garage-Mahal...today, the plywood alone for that project would be like buying a Caddy. I think I'll wait until the lumber market recovers...if it ever does.
Isn’t this basically the story of Kirchen’s Tele?