HiLo'Tron in Tele neck position?

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  1. caliban335

    caliban335 Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    Has anyone tried using a HiLo'Tron in the neck position of a Tele? If so how did it work out and what bridge pickup did you pair it with?

    Thanks.
     
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  2. Don Mare

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    had a 1966 hi-lo in the neck for a short tour last year -
    loved it - it was sorta beatle-ish

    bridge was a 5.7k -

    worked great
     
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    I like trons. Jangly, sparkly, shimmery.
     
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    caliban335 Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    Thanks for the replies. I was headed down a TV Classic path, but I'm strongly considering a HiLo instead.

    I have a MIM standard with a full sized humbucker in the neck position. It's not working out. I'm starting to think the only way to pair a full sized bucker with a standard (OK, I know there's no such thing; not overwound; not a stacked bucker) Tele bridge pickup is in a Custom where you have separate volume and tone controls.

    I'm in no rush and will be thinking it through. Any more feedback will be greatly appreciated.
     
  5. spankdplank

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    Consider this. A HiLoTron is really just 1/2 a Filtertron. It is one coil of a Filtertron with a bar magnet under and to the side of the coil, put in a humbucker case. It is not a humbucker, as it only has one coil. HiLos tend to be very clear sounding because they are very low output and single coil. They are great for cleans and twang, but they don't push the front end of an amp and they don't buck the hum. A Filtertron or TV CLassic or a good minihumbucker will also give you good clarity and will match well with a tele bride, with hum bucking. That said, who doesn't love the sound of George Harrison's Gretsch with HiLos?
     
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    I know it's been almost a year since the last post, but here's my one-and-a-half cents for anyone who's curious. I have a "project" Tele where I use an aftermarket HiLo in the neck. If I remember right, it's a fairly low value - 2.2 or something close. In all honesty, it's made it a very versatile guitar. Switched in the neck position, it's got great tone for jazz and swing, fairly clear but fatter than a normal Tele single coil. By mistake, I wired the HiLo out of phase with the bridge P/U and so it's got a sort of thin, hollow sound in the middle position. Others might disagree, but I love it; it's got a great Freddie King vibe. Both can be kind of trebly, so I upped the tone cap to a .1, which helps a lot. I probably wouldn't recommend it for guys looking for that signature twang, but this guitar is anything but standard. Bridge P/U is just a cheap mighty mite. Good luck!
     
  7. Uma Floresta

    Uma Floresta Tele-Holic

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    I put one in a Jazzmaster. It was a little darker than I would have liked - I had them in both positions, actually. Not as bright as I'd always heard they were.

    Anyway, cool pickups.
     
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    talking about digging things up... I'm getting one and was thinking of dropping it in a routed allparts body I have
     
  9. Antigua Tele

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    I have a collection of Cabronitas with various TV Jones pickups in them, including one with HiLo Tron clones. It sounds more single coil that a Filter'tron, so more like a typical Tele neck, where has a Filter'tron in the neck gets it closer to the Gretsch sound overall. If I only had one Cab, I'd stick with the Filter'trons / TV Classics.
     
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    I've got a pair of Fender Fidelitrons, which aren't as clear, nor as sparkly as I would like them to be.

    I had been considering TVJ Filtertron Classics, then last night I heard about Hilo'trons.

    Would the Hilo'trons be clearer, cleaner, more sparkly sounding than the TVJ Classic? (I know we're talking about single coil vs. humbucker, basically)

    If so, it sounds like hilo'tron would be my choice for my Cab Thinline. And, I think it needs a rosewood board, as well.

    Will the hilo'trons be a direct and easy replacement for Fender Fidelitrons?

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Ian T

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    I went on a Hilo kick a few years ago, bought a bunch of vintage ones off Reverb. Not too expensive since they aren't hyped much at all. Awesome pickups, perfect for Tele neck. They are low output, some are muddier than others. They are single coils so quite different than Filtertrons, none of that phase cancellation. Work very well in neck of Tele. Quench your thirst dude, go for it.

    Funkiest guitar player of all time (IMO) liked them.

     
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    The Gretsch HiloTron pickup looks identical to the TV Jones TV-HT pickup.

    Are the Gretsch versions identical to the TVJones versions?
     
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    aren't they supposed to be wire in series though? I don't recall them being wimpy in the middle position.
     
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    I'm kicking myself for not buying this pack of 4 for 200 off ebay some years back....
     
  15. Antigua Tele

    Antigua Tele Friend of Leo's

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    They're very close, but still different

    http://www.gretsch-talk.com/threads/gretsch-hilotron-analysis-and-review.159653/

    http://www.gretsch-talk.com/threads/tv-jones-tv-ht-analysis-and-review.155261/


    The most obvious difference is the TV-Jones' filister screws have no heads, where as the Gretsch do. Neither are "hot" my any stretch, but the TV Jones have a higher inductance, and could be said to be a little hotter.



    Gretsch

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    TV Jones
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    Thanks, Antiqua.

    I installed an 880k Volume pot in my Cabronita Thinline, and now I absolutely love how the Fender Fideli'trons sound in it! The volume pot change was all that it needed to bring the tone to my liking.

    For a short while, I had Gretsch HS Filter'trons in the Cabronita and, by comparison, Fender's Fidelitrons had more sparkle (the Filter'trons were a bit more rounded and warmer) - so the Fideli'trons went back into the guitar.

    As for Hilo'trons... I installed a set of TVJ TV-HTs in my Gibson ES-339 and they sound awesome. Greater clarity, detail, articulation, and brightness than the Classic '57 set that was in it. I love the TV-HTs.

    [​IMG]

    Gibson's Classic '57s are excellent pickups, one of my favorites when it comes to PAF humbuckers, but I have become less enamored with them in recent years - preferring a guitar tone with more clarity and sparkle.

    By comparison, the Classic '57s sounded a bit like there was a veil over the speaker. Veil was lifted with the Hilo'trons. :) This ES-339 has become one of my favorite guitars now.
     
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