High gain amplifier and a baby!

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  1. TubeBlues

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    I can't seem to find anything to fit my needs.
    I want a high gain amplifier, something in the vein of a rectifier.
    The problem is that I only play at home, at very low volumes.
    All the amps I tried either suck or don't have enough gain.

    There are amps like the H&K Black Spirit 200 with the 1 watts setting, but it's 1500$.....

    Do you have any suggestions?
     
  2. schenkadere

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    Randall Diavlo 1w or 5w
    Blackstar HT1 or HT5

    Available in combos or heads.

    Not quite the gain of a rectifier but you can boost them.

    The Diavlos and the HT5 have an effects loop. I love my Diavlo 5w combo.
     
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    A JCM and a large investment in a plexiglas isolation box+ acoustic dampening tiles.

    Just kidding.....

    Buy an Orange, pop it into an isolation box......


    High gain, large amplifiers are selling at low prices.

    The Marshall Origin 20. Has a gain boost, and a switch to go Down to 3w or half a watt.

    Try one first. It's not the highest gain, but its not what I'd use for jazz, to say the least...

    How high are you after? Because in all seriousness, brands like B52 that have large, high power heads really do pop up cheap enough to still invest in sound-dampening arrangements.

    I had to use a bugera V5 while my kids were smaller and we lived in a townhouse. Now they're 3, 5, and 10, and the 3 year old falls asleep to me playing with my Supro Blues King.

    How much gain is "just enough "?
     
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    It seems to me that you should look at modelers. The Katana 50 does everything you want for a very fair price (or you can go in the upper price range and get a Kemper, or what do I know). It is cheaper than an isolation box too, so you’ll still have some money left to buy the big amp of your dreams.
     
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    I'd build up a "flea" w/ 12AU7 or 12AT7 output. Cascade a few gain stages on the front end...

    Still. A high gain amp on a tight leash is a recipe for crappy tone. It takes a few watts to push the bass, otherwise you're going to sound buzzy and thin.

    Maybe a low watt Mode 4? Run a bunch of gain into a flea and use a bass amp for bass. A miniature bi- amp rig.
     
  6. Verne Bunsen

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    When my youngest was born, I sold my tube amps and bought a Line 6 Helix. It is very nice to be able to play and record during nap time. Haven’t looked back.
     
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    Hmmmm a Helix is a really good idea!
     
  8. VintageSG

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    I had a Hayden Lil Mofo, which was ~2 Watts and had more gain than I'd ever need. Sounded pretty fine with it too. Unleashed, 2 Watts is -very- loud in a small room!
    I built a Lummerland Express, which is a 'trainwreck' style amp. ~3 Watts of snarling, raging gain. 3 Watts is -very- loud in a small room!
    I came within inches of buying a Randall Diavlo 5 Watt.
    Jet City make a 5 Watt head in a similar vein.

    The Hotone Nano heads are available in many gain flavours. They sound very good indeed.
    The Orange Micro Dark is a step up in power from the < 5 Watt heads above.

    You'll need a cab for the above, and that opens up using an attenuator so you can just wind everything into Spinal Tap territory. Attenuators open up amps like the larger Randall Diavlos, the Laney Iroheart ( and if you need more gain that they offer, seek medical help ) and many more high powered amps.

    Or get a Katana and be done with the whole thing :)

    Really small?, Yamaha THR10 Discount those at your peril.
     
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    Valve amps (even small ones) and babies don't mix very well.
    Valve amps need output tube drive to sound good.
    I would look for a S/S amp that allows you to run headphones instead of speakers.
    Then get your high gain with the right pedal.
     
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    Have you looked into the Mesa Mini Rectifier 25?
     
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    Yamaha THR10X.
     
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    Just get a classical and play for the baby. Babies like sounds, just not loud distorted ones. It's all music!
     
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    A Boogie Studio 22 will do exactly what you want. Godzilla crushes Manhattan at late night family-in-bed volume. Also capable of Fenderish cleans and some of the nicest reverb I ever heard from a combo amp.
     
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    im not sure how "rectifier" like they are but the Marshall DSL40C or CR are high gain and sound good at VERY low volume. I have a mesa express, that's solid at low volume on the 5w option, but it sounds better dimed.

    Now all that being said, most of the time I find myself with my headphones direct into my HX stomp and am pretty satisfied with it. probably gonna upgrade to the full helix TBH. but when the fam leaves, I go straight into the Mesa no effects and have a ball.
     
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    Find yourself a Fender Prosonic
     
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    Thanks everyone.

    A helix would have been a great choise, but money wise it's not for me.
    I think I'll try out a Boss Katana, it's analog so it easier to play at lower volumes and it's got the half a watt mode.

    It's more of a british crunch, but for the price I think it's worth a try.

    If that does not do it for me, I think I'll go clean valve amp with pedals, like the Wampler Dracarys.
     
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    I got a Randall RG80 and haven't looked back.
     
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    What's more important, your ears or the babies? A Bad Monkey OD pedal into headphones (no amp needed), not enough gain?Add more Bad monkeys to the chain.
     
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    The Katana is a nice choice; your requirements are where modelling amps excel - decent sound at low volume.
     
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