High end fizz as distorted notes decay

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  1. hamfists

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    I’m hoping someone’s can help me. I have have been getting some fizzing as the notes decay and I’m not sure if it’s normal or I’m being picky. I’ve tried both of my amps (tone king falcon, excelsior) and a few speakers and tubes buts it’s the same with every thing it’s even there when I plug straight into the falcon.

    Is this normal I use a tele, Strat, gretsch if that helps.

    I’ve read a little online but thought I would on here.
     
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    It's hard to understand what you're describing, but if it's doing it with multiple guitars and multiple amps it may be normal? Did you try using a different guitar cable to make sure that isn't causing an issue? Maybe a recording of the sound could be helpful for this question.
     
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    How are the amps set with regard to gain and master volume?.
     
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    Have your ears checked.
     
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    Do you get your overdrive from your amps or with pedals?

    Overdrive / distortion creates harmonics which are higher in pitch than the notes that created them.

    That said, it's difficult to say if that's what you're experiencing or not.

    On a side note, I assume your action is set reasonnably? (as in not super low?) If the action is too low, and the strings still hit the frets as the note decays, that might be perceived as high end fizz with heavy overdrive / distortion. Just a thought.
     
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    It kind of souls like the speaker is breaking up but it happens at lowing gain. It happens with both amp Overdrive/distortion and pedals but I do only play at low volume.
     
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    Both amps do it? any kind of pedal in between?
     
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    He says tone king falcon and and excelsior
     
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    The pedal chain is - polytune2 - big muff - EQD palisades - EQD gray channel - el capistan- flint. It does it with and without pedals.
     
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    But only distorted not clean
     
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    I have a similar issue going on but I've noticed its bass related and usually only occurs on my wound strings especially low E and A
     
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    It's normal. Lots of amps and pedals do it. Most people never notice it for various reasons.

    The two most notorious examples in pedals are the Crowther Hotcake and the Boss Blues Driver.

    It's most noticeable when you have the amp or pedal set for 'edge of breakup'.
    When a note or chord rings/fades out it wavers in and out of clipping which gives you that crackly fizzy decay where the clipping no longer seems part of the sound but seems detached and kinda rides on top.
    It usually means the amp or pedal has a great sounding high(er) gain.

    It's also much more noticeable playing the lower (E, A) strings because their pitch is much more different from the frequencies of the crackle/fizz compared to the higher (b, e) strings where it blends more in.

    There's not much you can really do about it:
    Turn up the gain.
    Buy an other amp...
    Try a different speaker (that doesn't emphasise the crackly/fizzy frequencies as much)
    Change the position of the amp wrt your ears/mic (the crackle/fizz is mostly higher frequencies and those are (very) directional.)
    If it's an open back amp, simply try to play it backwards (face the backside to you)
    Try not to hear it or embrace it as a feature...

    Maybe you haven't noticed yet, but the crackle is usually also there while playing, instead of only when a note or chord rings out.

    Here's a good example of some constant crackle/fizz:
    I love the way it sounds in that video but it would drive me mad when playing myself in the livingroom.


    Here's the opposite (no crackle/fizz whatsoever)


    You'll hear it in many recordings once your ear has tuned in to it.
    Listen to this intro for example :
    I'm dead certain that would crackle and fizz if he'd let some of those chords ring out.


    Here's a very good technical explanation:
    https://wiki.fractalaudio.com/axefx...ackle.2C_sizzle.2C_intermodulation_distortion
     
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