Knows3Chords
Friend of Leo's
I prefer an old Ruger GP 100. If you miss, you can always beat them over the head with it. 
Hi-Point has failed to deliver on it's promised YC9 G2
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Tele-Afflicted
If your desire is 9mm (for good reason too) and the firearm is for personal protection/CC I'd highly recommend the Springfield Hellcat Compact. Bought mine last October and couldn't be happier with it. Light weight, very compact, fantastic grips and holds up to 15 rds in a side by side stack mag. Firing, its well balanced with great sights and not much recoil for a small package, very accurate.
https://www.springfield-armory.com/...handguns/hellcat-3-micro-compact-9mm-handgun/
https://www.springfield-armory.com/...handguns/hellcat-3-micro-compact-9mm-handgun/
Happy Enchilada
Friend of Leo's
^^^^This has also been my experience. Sigs are worth the price.
Only hangup is the "takedown lever," which is often difficult to operate.
You can send the gun back to Sig, but that's a hassle. And a delay.
Best Sig I ever found was a military fleet gun that was "refurbished" - a fullhouse P220 .45 singlestack.
Smoothest action of any Sig I've ever seen. Or any autoloader in general. Minimal holster wear.
Put night sights and G10 Piranha grips on it.
Solid, reliable shooter - digests everything I feed it with aplomb.
It's one of the last pieces I would sell in my collection if it came to that.
And it's what I want in my right hand when the spit hits the spam.
Currently lives in the nightstand, a place of highest honor.
Dang guy are you into everything?Modern 9mm +P ammo these days is approaching the hotter ballistics of the Sig 357 but without the muzzle blast of the Sig round; it's not your granddad's WWII 9mm parabellum round anymore. I have a Kel Tec Sub 2KII in 9mm and it hits pretty hard with hotter 9 loads. The extra barrel length really helps.
But many years ago I got aboard with the .40 S&W round and that's what I still have. It's not necessarily better than 9mm now, but 25-some years ago it could reach out farther than the 9 and had better terminal ballistics. I guess I'm just stuck in the 40 ecosystem for now. Here's a pair of Sub KT2Ks, an H&K USP and Glock 23, along with a pretty nice little Beretta 22.
I have it also. But you are better at it than I.I have many hobbies and interests. It's a product of my undiagnosed ADHD/ACDC
39martind18
Friend of Leo's
For a number of years, I was feeding both 9mm and .45. Because of arthritis in my right hand, the snap of my Kimber .45 got to be a bit much to take, so I converted to all 9, all the time. I now have three 1911 style 9s, a Kimber Micro 9, my EDC, a Springfield Armory Range Officer 4 in barrel and a Smith and Wesson Model 59 from 1974, nickel plated, which also uses the same magazines as my Marlin Camp 9, and a short-barreled Remington 870 12 gauge so I won't have to worry about going thru walls and endangering my neighbors. Me likum 9s!
haggardfan1
Poster Extraordinaire
I only own the one old Glock as well, but I'm sold on the brand.
After inheriting the gun when my father died, knowing he'd bought it used I called the company for some information.
My Glock 17, now called a first-generation model, was in one of the batches first imported to the US. It doesn't even have the now ubiquitous tactical rail. The customer service rep asked me to partly disassemble it, and check for a couple upgrades, which had been done. He then offered condolences on dad's death, and a welcome as a customer.
That was in spring of 2007.
Since then, I've put hundreds if not thousands of rounds through the pistol--and I mean every brand of light to medium loads, plus some reloads friends have given me--and it has NEVER malfunctioned. Not once.
I clean it thoroughly depending on use, otherwise just try to keep the dust and dog hair out of it, and it performs with zero fuss. I'd definitely buy another Glock.
Randy07ACV6
TDPRI Member
10mm is much hotter than 9 or 45, it is not normally used as a target round. Equal to 357Mag, it comes close to the 41Mag at around 700 lb.ft. energy with a 180g bullet at 1350fps.
The power of a Magnum in a reliable auto cartridge chambered in a number of excellent pistols.
My first was an all-steel RIA 10mm 1911 and with the weight it is very easy to handle.
Even though the round came out in the '80s popularity has varied, but lately it's been growing.
Lots of Alaskans are carrying the Glocks for bear protection, you don't need a 500Mag when you have 15 reliable shots. Glock and others are making models with 6" barrels that are popular with hunters for deer and feral hogs.
The last ammo I bought was about 4 years ago when 50rd box of 9mm was $9-10, 10mm range ammo was about twice that at $18/box. Not bad.
tubedude
Tele-Afflicted
It's always the shooter!
Otherwise the $1000 gun would have scored.more than a 200.
I can see that for the bears (etc) there. I often carry my old .357 with a hardened bear round as a jic measure when in the woods here...but we only have black bear and hogs. I'd up the ante if the potential were for the big bears.
Happy Enchilada
Friend of Leo's
Friend was fishing guide in Alaska. He said they carried short-barreled 12 gages with rifled slugs.
He added that most handguns just piss 'em off ...
Just carry any gun or even some firecrackers and you'll probably be fine. Most bears are easily spooked and after an easy meal. If you want to be extra safe, go with the 12 ga slugs.
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I see you're a fan, and I don't mean to offend, really, but the Hi Point would be more like the Glarry or Indio, IMO. There are just so many more better choices out there in semiauto 9mm pistols to trust your life with than a Hi Point. Aside from being about the cheapest thing out there, Hi Point doesn't have much more going for it.
Curious to know if your trust in the reporting by firearm YouTubers is congruent with how you feel about guitar YouTubers
Tony65x55
TDPRI Member
I'm a traditionalist. I like Telecasters and Browning Hi-Powers. Argue with me!
Randy07ACV6
TDPRI Member
I'm still amazed that this is a gun thread on a guitar forum.
I do love my 10mm and most who fire it like it too. I think it is the perfect autopistol round, powerful but still controllable and many others agree with that statement. Try it, when you touch one off you feel the concussion in your chest like the Magnum handguns.
If you buy a 10mm it is important to check the specs of any ammo you buy, for some reason Fed AE is only loaded to 40S&W velocities of around 1000fps. The hot stuff is 1250-1350fps (180g bullet).
I also own four 9mm handguns for plinking and home protection. A few years ago the market was flooded with police-trade-in Star BM 9mms (steel 1911 clones) for around $200 each and I bought two.
Many look down their nose at Hi-Point and I don't plan on getting one myself...except their 10mm carbine gets great reviews and I want one.
Great review:
I do love my 10mm and most who fire it like it too. I think it is the perfect autopistol round, powerful but still controllable and many others agree with that statement. Try it, when you touch one off you feel the concussion in your chest like the Magnum handguns.
If you buy a 10mm it is important to check the specs of any ammo you buy, for some reason Fed AE is only loaded to 40S&W velocities of around 1000fps. The hot stuff is 1250-1350fps (180g bullet).
I also own four 9mm handguns for plinking and home protection. A few years ago the market was flooded with police-trade-in Star BM 9mms (steel 1911 clones) for around $200 each and I bought two.
Many look down their nose at Hi-Point and I don't plan on getting one myself...except their 10mm carbine gets great reviews and I want one.
Great review:
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youtube reviews are used in this context because if I post links to "trusted authority" gun writers (saying the same thing, btw) no one would bother to read them, our society having become what it has
PhoenixBill
Tele-Afflicted
For times when I just want to shoot for fun, I drag out one of my 1911s, chambered in .45 ACP. The trigger pull is so nice and crisp and I don’t find the recoil all that punishing. It also reminds me of my dad, who qualified as a Marksman in the pistol in WW2. For times when I might need a little friend with me, though, I use the 9mm. I have a Kahr CM9 and PM9 which are very compact pistols, though I can’t shoot them accurately (too small to hold well) but they’re fine at close range. I also have several S&W 3rd-gen autoloaders: a 5906, 6906, 3913, and a 4516. The first 3 are 9mm and the fourth .45 ACP. They are all DA/SA meaning they can be decocked then the first shot is DA and the next shots will be SA.
The 10mm and .40 S&W remind me of the old .41 Magnum hype. The .41 was supposed to deliver almost the power of the .44 mag but with the recoil of the .357. I was unimpressed…just give me a good ol’ .357 which I shoot in a Ruger Service Six. I’m not in grizzly bear country, so I don’t need the extra power of a 10mm, a 9mm will do me just fine with the slightly smaller rounds. If I did need more power, one of my 1911s is a Springfield V16 long slide which can handle .45 Super.
The 10mm and .40 S&W remind me of the old .41 Magnum hype. The .41 was supposed to deliver almost the power of the .44 mag but with the recoil of the .357. I was unimpressed…just give me a good ol’ .357 which I shoot in a Ruger Service Six. I’m not in grizzly bear country, so I don’t need the extra power of a 10mm, a 9mm will do me just fine with the slightly smaller rounds. If I did need more power, one of my 1911s is a Springfield V16 long slide which can handle .45 Super.
