Hi-Point has failed to deliver on it's promised YC9 G2

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However they say this year FOR SURE this time šŸ˜†
In the meantime, they've made available essentially a 10mm version, the JXP-10.
Opinions?

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one appeal to me of 9 is that in a "happening"/splat-hits-the-fan scenario, it's actually the single most popular round in the world , and therefore in theory relatively easily available/accessible
thoughts on that? (I've never owned a 9)
 

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I bought a HiPoint 9MM for little to nothing from a friend who had upgraded. I ended up taking my CC course with it and scored 250 out of 250 in the throw lead down the range test.

the instructor actually laughed as he kind of put a dig into a guy who had just brought in a $1000 weapon for his test and scored less than 200. The guy who had the high dollar weapon said something snarky about me being a good shooter. The instructor then said that my wife had scored 247 out of 250 with the same weapon, so it wasn't the shooter. LOL
 

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Modern 9mm +P ammo these days is approaching the hotter ballistics of the Sig 357 but without the muzzle blast of the Sig round; it's not your granddad's WWII 9mm parabellum round anymore. I have a Kel Tec Sub 2KII in 9mm and it hits pretty hard with hotter 9 loads. The extra barrel length really helps.

But many years ago I got aboard with the .40 S&W round and that's what I still have. It's not necessarily better than 9mm now, but 25-some years ago it could reach out farther than the 9 and had better terminal ballistics. I guess I'm just stuck in the 40 ecosystem for now. Here's a pair of Sub KT2Ks, an H&K USP and Glock 23, along with a pretty nice little Beretta 22.

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one appeal to me of 9 is that in a "happening"/splat-hits-the-fan scenario, it's actually the single most popular round in the world , and therefore in theory relatively easily available/accessible
thoughts on that? (I've never owned a 9)

I think splats are likely to be short events for me. Or I'm in one now and it's a really long event and bullets aren't useful at all. Either way, if I need more than five rounds of 7.62x25 tokarev, oh well I did my best. (I keep 5 in a mag to stress the spring less when not in use.)
It's really just a plinker for me. I'd like to replace it with a boring .45, just so if I ever do have a need, it doesn't travel through so many walls.
 

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9s are fun to shoot and relatively cheap to feed for a centerfire pistol.
They also allow you to carry more rounds more compactly.
This is important because today it's not usually just one bad guy, it's 3.
My new Sig 365XL is a case in point.
Small-ish compared to "duty pistols" like the 226 and 220, so more easily concealed.
Comes with 10 or 12-round magazines, and a 15-round is available - although that kinda defeats the purpose of the smaller frame, etc.
X-Ray day/night sights are a big plus (better than just straight up night sights).

OP is right, 9 is the most popular caliber out there for handguns.
In an apocalyptic scenario, it'd be the easiest to come by.
Same with 5.56 / .223 rifle ammo.
I have a nifty little bolt gun with a short heavy barrel ("carbine"?) that takes AR mags.
It's a Ruger Ranch Rifle and it's a tackdriver.
Comes from the factory with a threaded barrel.
I put a Leupold 3x9 on it and it's scary accurate out to around 400-500 meters.
However, it doesn't have as much energy out that far as say a .270 Winchester.
Still, it would be a tactical advantage.
 

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one appeal to me of 9 is that in a "happening"/splat-hits-the-fan scenario, it's actually the single most popular round in the world , and therefore in theory relatively easily available/accessible
thoughts on that? (I've never owned a 9)
I laid in a 9mm on the availability reasoning and saw it proved true over the last couple of years...I was always able to get 9mm (if I was willing to pay for it), unlike other calibers including .22 which went cold and silent for a while. That said, I prefer my SW 638 (.38) as an EDC.
 

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I bought my first Sig-Sauer P226 in the late 80ā€™sā€¦.along with an Sig P220SB in .45

I still have them both along with a few others.

The Sigs have been reliable and trouble-freeā€¦even after all these years.
 

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10mm is fine through a heavier, long slide style pistol, see: Dan Wesson Bruin, but I wouldn't.

I reload and I'm not scared off by weird calibers (heck, I've got friends who invent their own), but for home defense I stick with 9mm+P loaded into a HK VP9 for the reasons many stated above

FWIW, I've got no concerns about building an ecosystem of common calibers - what is good in a pistol is rarely better through a longer barrel "carbine"...there's just not enough powder to burn to pick up meaningful velocity through the extra length. The exception is 5.7, but I'm not a PMC or European crime lord so I'll have to pass on the FN.

In the Marine Corps I learned to hate the Beretta. The ones we had must've had 30k rounds down the pipe and shot awfully. HK all the way.
 

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I can't justify anything outside of 9mm other than wanting a shiney 1911 for the ooh factor. That said, I'm still trying to find a barn with a side big enough to hit with my Sig P365.
Trade the P365 for a Springfield Hellcat. You'll be glad you did, and mad you didn't do it sooner.
 
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