Here's a challenge - what speaker is this?

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  1. 84GTIRookie

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    This speaker is from an old Califone turntable (think 1960's/1970's elementary school) with detachable speaker cab. Actually sounds pretty good. Not a ton of bass, and perfect for rolling off the high end of the tele on bridge pickup.

    Based on the frame, it might be a tell-tale sign of who made it? Any thought on specs? It is 12" 8ohm. Thanks!
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    Matches Utah speakers seen on Reverb.
     
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    I'm thinking Pyle, because of the 4 "dots" on the middle of the mag structure. I've only seen that on Pyle speakers, doesn't mean it can't be something else. No codes on the frame?.
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    I am thinking Utah, as well. Utah is intertwined with Pyle. It was started by a ?Francis? Pyle...my memory is not very good. Mr. Pyle also had a company named Pyle, which later took Utah over. Something like that.....
    !!! That Caliphone unit !!! What is under the hood. I have an older one which came without the lid and speaker.rectifier, single EL84, and a 7199 doing preamp and driver service. Killer amp. I run it into a reconed Rola 12” that is housed in an old ‘schoolhouse’ speaker cab....if you are old enough you know what it is, right? Nicely curved natural wood thing. Bad rig! And loud enough to amaze people as to being a single-ended amp mak8ng maybe 5 watts. I moved the tone control from the phono circuit to the microphone circuit. No other mods were necessary according to what I like. What goes on in that unit, 84gtiRookie?
     
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    Didn't some of the Califone boxes use the Jensen Delta Series DL120's?

    Obviously his isn't.
     
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    Very cool box and speaker!
     
  7. 84GTIRookie

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    To answer your questions. There are no identifying codes what so ever on the speaker. It's likely they got painted over by Califone? Yes, the frame looks like the Utah's you referred to from Reverb. Seems likely. WALLY - In regards to what the turntable has to offer, I have not taken it apart to look. I'm not a turntable expert, but of the 3 or 4 old ones I've tried (all school issues! ha!), this sounds the best. Sweet, old school, lo-fi sound. I will tear into it some day. I also have an old Rola Co. 12" alnico speaker - one that is in it's original Hammond Reverb cabinet. I repurposed a Hammond AO-29 for guitar amp this past winter and found the speaker to match (if you look at my recent posts you'll find pics of amp, speaker, and cab). I think the speaker sounds amazing, such a nice deep rich tone, but with that amazing alnico sound quality, and an amazing feel when you play it.
     
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    Rookie, here is my unit...a 12M. I removed the turntable...no need for old turntables in my world. The rectifier here is a 6X5.
    The speaker is housed in that wall hangI got unit. Neat little trap door for access to the tubes.

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    That's a cool one, definitely more old school than mine. What year is it from? You got me thinking about mine. I've not wanted to crack it open cause we still use it for Xmas records & old vintage records, and I know if I look inside I'll start thinking about moddin' it into a guitar amp!
     
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    That's a cool one, definitely more old school than mine. What year is it from? You got me thinking about mine. I've not wanted to crack it open cause we still use it for Xmas records & old vintage records, and I know if I look inside I'll start thinking about moddin' it into a guitar amp!
     
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    Rookie, by the EIA code on the OT, I am going to think tis 7nit was built in late 1959 or early 1960. The date part of that code is ‘939’, and I am going to think that 1969 would be a bit too late for tube tech....but I could be wrong. The best date I can come to for the 6X5 is Dec, 1970???? The date code on the 7199 does not compute??? However, the made-in-Austria Amperex 6BQ5/EL84 has a 68 39 code, which I take to mean the 39th week of 1968? So...the unit could be from late 1969????.
     
  12. schmee

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    Utah but yeah there is another brand with those slots, CTS maybe. Based on small magnet I would say maybe 20-25 watts.
    99% it's Utah, seen them in that blue before too. Tons of pics on google.
     
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    Rookie, looking at few Caliphone on the ‘net, I am thinking that you have a solid state unit there. I wish this one had come with the lid...even if the speaker were missing the lid would complete the carry case.
     
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    Now you got me thinking. I'm gonna have to crack it open and see what's inside!
     
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    I had some old Utah speakers years ago and they were that color. I think I sold them as they were low wattage and I didn't have any use for them, cool looking cabinet!
     
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    Rookie, very cool, it looks great. A fan of phonograph conversions all were old school phonographs, have taken out the turntable parts. Left a Newcomb pp6v6 sold off. Center se el84 with 6x5 rec...killer amp, has a voice switch that is the fataeness for warm round woody jazz, or just crank for instant keef; gave it to a young slinger. Right is a se6L6, came with black plates and telefunkens, a tad of bench time...a tweed princeton on steroids


     
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    Those capture what it's all about! It's funny, but the history in them brings out the best in your playing to get the old school sounds and vibe out of them!
     
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