Help needed identification US Strat 2004/2005

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  1. Blind Walker G

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    Hello, need some help to identify a Strat. This instrument makes me curious, if it is original or a partscaster. The neck serial points to 2004/2005. The body has a pewter finish, probably poly. HSH routing, 6-point tremolo with stamped saddles, blank neckplate. The original pickguard is black with SSS NSC's. I can't bring this neck/body combination together for any US model made around 2004/2005. Any help would be appreciated, as I'm not sure of buying this guitar or not. Thanks in advance for any information.
     

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    The body looks like it's MIM
     
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    My first thought.
    But I'm not sure if there'd been other US-models with 6-point trem and blank neckplate in that time period.
    Highway One came to my mind, maybe there are some more.
     
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    MIM Standard body

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    I know that, but there are US-models with the same routing.
     
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    But not with a vintage style bridge.
     
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    Some of the US budget series used 6-point trem and blank neckplate at that time.
    Routings can differ, not all guitars of one series need to have the same routing. The HSH routing can also be seen on US Standards and Deluxes for example, not the big point to identify a guitar.
     
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    You've obviously convinced yourself already, why bother asking if you don't want to know? Ask on Strat-Talk. No, wait, you already did and got the same answer...
     
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    Thanks for the helpful answer full of insider knowledge.
     
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    You're welcome.
     
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    Strat-Central states it's a 2004 neck - my Highway One has a 6 point tremolo and a Z2 + 6 digit s/n.
    i don't recall the routing
    the Pewter looks great - how does it sound and play?
     
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    Yes, the Highway One came to my mind. But most owners say the nitro finish of the body looks very worn after a short time, so this seems not to fit. I'm not that deep into the Highway One model to know more about that Nitro on Poly finish thing of later models and how they look after a while.
    It's a longer ride to the seller, so I'm trying here to clear up if it makes sense or not. So I can't tell anything about the qualities yet. As guitars come and go I just want to make sure I will not loose money when I sell it after a while.
     
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    measure the string spacing. a MIM vintage bridge is narrower than MIA.
     
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    Those crop circle location routs on the body and green inspection circle stickers are consistent with MIM as is the vintage style trem as Beagle says. If it's a 52mm spacing trem that would seal it, as Classic and Vintera models have full-size 56mm US trems but the MIM standards had imported narrow units..

    I would say it's a US neck on a MIM body.

    If it was Highway One it wouldn't be gloss pewter.

    That barcode sticker in the control cavity probably has a part number on it. You could email Fender and they'd likely tell you exactly what it is
     
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    That could be a way, thanks. Do you have any measurements in mind to compare?
     
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    USA width trem is 56mm across centre of the outer saddles. Asian units on the MIM Standards are 52mm. Hwy One used the same unit as the MIM Classics which are 56mm.
     
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    Thanks, as far as I know there never been any regular Mexican classics with a pewter finish. So the string spacing really could be the chance to find out if this is all original or mixed parts.
     
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    You can't fool me, I read that other post.

    2004 OR 2005?!
     
  20. Blind Walker G

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    Z4 could be 2004 or 2005. Who fools whom? I don't get you.
     
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