Help me understand Hall and Oates

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  1. Whatizitman

    Whatizitman Friend of Leo's

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    When I was a little kid in the 70s-80s, I thought for an embarrassingly long time that there was a band called Haulin’ Oats. I heard lots of Hall and Oates songs on the radio, but didn’t make the connection for a quite some time.

    I still think Haulin’ Oats is a badass band name. I’ve been trying to persuade my guitar buddy to name our duo Daryl Haul and John A$$. Hasn’t gone for it yet. Just give it time.
     
  2. regularslinky

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    They wrote some great songs. I think they would be more respected if they hadn't been so incredibly successful in the 80's. Even great songs get annoying when they are overproduced and shoved down your throat a million times when all you want is to see the girls in the ZZ Top video that you hope is up next. Or was that just me?

    Anyway, I saw them in 2004 at a small venue (wife made me go) and they were fantastic. Great musicians and performers, especially Hall. You could tell that they made their bones playing music live on stage.
     
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    I had a striking resemblance to Oates in my youth. I’m pretty sure it got me my first band gig.

    I was cool with it.

    :D



    (On edit: I’m sure it was. It certainly wasn’t talent...)
     
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    Well since GE gets some love around here,let's give him a tune!

     
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    Worth it

     
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    Similar thing with white Australian soul singer Renée Geyer, she sounded 'black' and her record company didn't want her to put her face on her album cover for a US release in the 70s. She insisted that her photo had to be on the album and admitted later she probably lost a lot listeners/money because of that decision.
     
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    It's funny you mention Haulin' Oats. A company tried to sell Haulin' Oats snack bars and got a lawsuit from Hall and Oates:
    March 6, 2015-- Early Bird Foods is not the first company to think it would be amusing to name an oats-based product "Haulin' Oats," so it should have known that doing this would be problematic.

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    One of their
    less-well-known marks
    As Rolling Stone reported yesterday (via the New York Post), Whole Oats Enterprises—the business entity of Daryl Hall and John Oates—has sued Early Bird in the Eastern District of New York alleging trademark infringement. "The name and mark Haulin’ Oats is an obvious play upon Plaintiff’s well-known Hall & Oates mark," a spokesman said, "and was selected by defendant in an effort to trade off of the fame and notoriety associated with the artist's [sic] and plaintiff's well-known marks."

    Those marks include, according to the complaint, DARYL HALL AND JOHN OATES as well as the more commonly used HALL & OATES. They have been used since the 1970s, when the duo started on the path to becoming "one of the most successful musical groups of the last 40 years" (again according to the complaint). Hall & Oates were in fact very successful, cranking out six No. 1 singles between 1976 and 1984. Since then, not so much, although as the complaint also notes, they were inducted into the Rock 'N' Roll Hall of Fame in 2014.

    Turns out they also sell oatmeal.
     
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  8. PJ55

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    It wasn't quite mainstream stuff when they arrived on the scene, but after so many hits, you have to give them credit as songwriters. It hard to place them in a genre - not really pop, not really rock. But, I'm OK with their music and I do admire them as writers. And LFDH certainly has been an entertaining way for us to see all genres of music in a new way.
     
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    If you want to see his roots, see how well he fits into the O'jays

    On the off chance you don't get the O'jays I can't help you
     
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    What's to understand? They sing, play, write better than you and I, and they made a lot more money than you and I. And more folks like them than like you and I. I don't get not getting it.
     
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    I like almost all of their songs. Kiss on My List and this one are my two favorites.

     
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    What's not to like?

     
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    I like Daryl's house but not his music.;)
     
  14. Whatizitman

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    This totally makes my day.

    So, what you’re saying is Daryl Haul and John A$$ is still open? Yessssssss.
     
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    Massive talents and actually with pretty great taste in music from what I've seen in interviews, etc.

    But I can't like their music.
     
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    If you can find the rest of this concert from 1983, it's worth the time to watch. Lots of vintage guitars before they were "vintage."

     
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    Daryl Hall is definitely not a one trick pony. If you can find it, check out his first solo album. I think it was produced by Robert Fripp. Very different from anything you typically associate H&O with.
     
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    I used to feel the same as the OP, and I wasn't that keen on Maneater either, until I watched the 1985 Liberty Concert. After that, I had a lot more respect for them. I still wouldn't buy their CDs though. :)
     
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    Yes... and he was also involved in Fripp's album Exposure. This gives some details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_(Robert_Fripp_album)
     
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    This post pretty much nailed it. Top-notch white soul early in their career. Listen to "She's Gone," it is killer. Later they verged into MTV-era pop, catchy hooks, top 40. Not my thing.
     
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