Help me spend my money/what would you do?

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  1. naveed211

    naveed211 Tele-Holic

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    Just got a nice raise at work, so naturally it’s gear shopping time!

    A couple things:
    I’m typically a one electric guy. I currently have a CV50s and honestly it’s really great. Just not a lot of desire to have a bunch of guitars around the house, most I’ve ever had at a time was four.

    I like semi hollows/hollowbodies, too.

    I currently am only playing at home, and I’d say it’s unlikely I gig, though there is a good local band that has me “on call” in case their guitarist they’re trying out doesn’t work out. Not holding my breath.

    That said, I have a vintage blackface Fender Champ which is really cool, but I’m not 100% positive is the sound I want (typically an EL84 guy). And I do play rock sometimes, and the 8” speaker is a bit limiting, though it is a great tone unto itself.

    If I got the gig down the road, I’d want a more giggable amp (the band in question is pretty rocking/loud, but again, not planning my life around them).
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    Still with me?

    So, my thoughts:
    1. Get an affordable semi-hollow/hollowbody for an alternative tone to go with my CV. Thinking DeArmond Starfire or a Casino (both of which I have experience with). Would consider a 72 Thinline RI, too.

    2. Buy/build “dream Tele.” Remain a one-electric guy, and have it be a combo of things I like. Bigger sounding neck pickup (HB, TV Jones, P90, etc), Tele bridge pickup, semi-hollow body. I’d sell the CV to help fund, most likely.

    3. Get the right amp for me and ride with the CV. Thinking something like a Morgan, Tyler, Top Hat, Bad Cat, 65 Amps...you get the picture.

    What would you do?
     
  2. Cantbreak100guy

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    Save your cash until you have 1500 dollars to spend. Then wait a week. Make a decision after. This is what I did. Meanwhile my son smacked up my car, and my wife's grandmother passed away. Now I get to spend it all and then some on a trip to Spokane and two new bumpers and a rear passenger side door.
    Get an amp ASAP. Then another guitar ASAP.
     
  3. pickaguitar

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    For an amp I'd personally get a new Fender Tone Master. It can scale to any volume setting needed.

    Otherwise I'd try one of those Marshall Studio Vintage 20/5 watt amps. Or a badcat but I'm not too versed on those
     
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  4. GearGeek01

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    For around $500 used, you can get a 1990-something Mesa/Boogie Subway Rocket Reverb (my amp)... (not to be confused with Mesa's new Subway bass amps) 22 very loud (or soft) watts, 1x10", only 37lbs... The Vibro Champ won't cut it in a band situation... if this Boogie needs to be any louder (I have never had to...) just throw a mic in front of it and run it into the main P.A. (or use the handy and great sounding direct out on the back)... you won't need to spend any more than this...

    Extremely great sounding clean tone, and takes pedal very well. Or has great tube overdrive and that "Boogie" sound if you want it... the best of both worlds.

    If it is a 1960s BF Vibro Champ, its worth around $1,000 if you sell it, and buy something like this Boogie, you'll still have cash left over to buy another guitar...
    https://reverb.com/marketplace?query=blackface vibro champ

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  5. Wallaby

    Wallaby Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    I'd probably go with the hollowbody, and not another Fender, to have access to different sounds and feel ( shorter scale ). Or maybe an SG.

    Variety!
     
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  6. Obsessed

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    For me it would be looking for an acoustic guitar. Perhaps an acoustic/electric.
     
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  7. naveed211

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    I forgot to mention, I do have an acoustic I’m happy with.
     
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  8. ReverendRevolver

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    Being an el84 guy isn't like being a 6L6 guy; there are vast differences between Vox and Marshall, and obviously Orange. Peaveys are even more different. While all the circuits are different and will have substantially more pronounced mids than you're typical 6l6 fender circuit, they aren't homogeneous enough for me to really know what youd like in an amp.

    The Fender Bassbreaker 18/30 is really neat, both channels are very usable. Its running el84s, while having one channel designed to emulate BF stuff, which gives you an el84 sound with more goodness on the bottom, which is missing often in el84 stuff designed to sound fendery.

    The Marshall origin 20 runs el34s(big bottles) and sound interesting. Has more tones than youd expect out of a Marshall, literally only downside is no spring reverb.

    You may find Mesas are close to what you're after. They are very much thier own thing, not just hotter fenders.

    I like the Peavey delta blues, running quartet of el84s in a circuit that's definitely not trying to imitate Marshall or Vox, and has its own rich thing going, and great tremelo channel.

    Also, DrZ has great stuff, if that's in your general scope of interest.

    Have you considered a 5e3? Hate to be trite, but theres a reason 5e3 clones are so popular.

    As for guitar, look at a semi hollow tele with a humbucker in the neck, or a used one and drop in a mini humbucker of good reputation. Or try out a few Gretsches.

    Edit: Casinos are cool, have you looked at epiphone p93s? Dint know how much the bigsby matters to you.
     
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  9. GearGeek01

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    There's a Subway Rocket Reverb on Reverb.com right now for just under $400, but the guy wants a small fortune to ship it ($160 s/h... ouchy) as he's shipping from Canada...
    https://reverb.com/item/31218805-mesa-boogie-subway-rocket

    That's be $560-ish for the amp, and for this amp I'd pay that... but IMHO, you could ship it to Timbuktu for $160 bucks... must be he's got the gold dust fairy dust shipping company in mind for a shipper... plus coming from Canada its gotta go through US Customs and you pay taxes on that... but I'm posting here to show you that they are out there used...

    There's another one on Reverb but the guy is smoking fairy dust thinking he's gonna get $1,000 out of that amp...

    Boogie had 2 models of these...
    - Subway Rocket Reverb (has a spring reverb)
    - Subway Rocket (doesn't have reverb)

    Both are the same cabinet size, same power... the only difference, on the front panel where the Reverb knob is, on the non-reverb version it has a Presence control. Both are excellent amps for the money.
     
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  10. rolandson

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    Save your money.

    Keep putting the raise away, every payday. Don't touch it.

    In the mean time, practice practice practice. Get really good. And of course keep doing the "pawn shop prowl".

    Now start playing out a little. After your first paying performance ...

    You will be able to buy what you want and it will be a depreciable business expense.

    And if you don't start getting paid to play, you will perhaps be able to eat when you are too old to work.
     
  11. David Barnett

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    Of the amps on your list, I'll just comment that I've heard Top Hat and 65 Amps products in a live setting numerous times, and never heard a bad tone out of any of them. I think you'll be happy with an appropriately-sized choice from either of those companies.

    Or a Marshall 1974x.
     
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  12. naveed211

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    Thanks for the lengthy response. The Delta Blues is on my radar. I’ve owned it before as well, and it’s a good all-around working class amp. I do like it, just seeing my other options since I know I can get one any day for pretty affordable.

    I’ve also had a 5e3 before, in the form of a vintage Gibson Lancer. Really cool amp. Just not sure if that looser feel is ultimately what I want.

    I’d probably avoid a Bigsby just for the weight. I’ve had them before and they’re cool, just don’t use them much. The P93 is a handsome guitar, but when I’ve played them I’ve preferred the Casino.
     
  13. naveed211

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    Every one I’ve played has been spectacular. There’s a supreme 16 locally that is drool worthy. Up there with the best amps I’ve played. It’s definitely on my radar. 65 amps I’ve only played a few but they were great and I like the power scaling option.
     
  14. naveed211

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    Ah man! All these reasonable responses!
     
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    I'd go with #3 first, then #1, then #2. The CV50 has a tele sound covered well enough for now.
     
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    You said you got a NICE raise at work.

    Why are you try to limit yourself with a low end affordable guitar?

    I think you need good quality strat style SSH guitar.

    Even if you don't fill in with the rock band, you'll have yourself a great sounding and tonally versatile guitar.

    I'm suggest a Suhe or Xotic SSH Strat style guitar.

    I also think a 20-30 watt Morgan combo would go great with one of the guitars I mentioned.
     
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  17. naveed211

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    It was a sizable raise, yes. I am at least a little practical and would leave a good portion (most) of the gains for life/family stuff. But I’d say around $1500 to at the very most $1800 would be my budget.

    I’m not really a Strat guy, I always end up getting rid of them. I did play a Journeyman custom shop not along ago that did blow me away, but that’s out of my range. Most times they just don’t speak to me.

    And yeah, the Morgan AC20 is definitely on my mind.
     
  18. Dukex

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    All good suggestions.

    You can have everything you want. It's a matter of time and priority.

    I had to work a lot of overtime over the years. I put 20% of it into my ongoing gear fund (along with birthday and Christmas money, bonuses, etc.). The wife got the rest. :) I had a plan (I knew I wanted a Tele, ES-335, 5e3, Vox, PR). I prioritized my wants, and over a period of five years was able to purchase everything. I still have and enjoy all of it. And I have no GAS for other gear...

    ...except for maybe a FrankenEsquire...with a snakehead and a P-90. :D
     
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    Uh....people don't come here looking for common sense or intelligent suggestions. It sounds like the OP has some money burning a hole in his pocket.....and he's gonna spend it!
    Yeah, without knowing his skill level or musical aspirations, I find it hard to give advice based on "extra money". If he REALLY has an itch for a semi-hollow style, I would honestly recommend a Grote or a Firefly.....with a proper set-up, those are incredible values for little money. Then, if you like it, (in a couple years) go buy an authentic ES 335 or a Casino......but be prepared to be underwhelmed after the Grote. I'm serious! ;)
     
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  20. stantheman

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    Got a nice raise - so obviously You’ve got it together.
    Peavey.
    If I was playing every weekend it’d be with a new Bandit.

    I like Amps that “show up” for work.

    With tubes...sleep with one eye open.
    What a lot of us (myself included) cannot grasp is that the day of the tube amplifier is rapidly passing into Antiquity along with the gasoline engine.

    The Tone Master Twin Reverb @ 33lbs. is the wake up call.
     
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