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Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by mimmo, Feb 18, 2020.
My youngest (age 14 & massive Beatles fan) already has an Epiphone Casino on his 2020 Christmas list (he's currently got a Squier Classic Vibe 60s Stratocaster).
I take it you'd recommend it?
Beat me to it. HSS strat, with whatever humbucker style you prefer is a great compliment. I find very little that and a tele can't cover. At least for my tastes.
It is way more professional to have a backup at a gig just in case you break a string than it is to have just your #1 and a pack of strings in your bag. Over the years I've broken strings several times at gigs (even though I re-string a day or two before the gig) and I simply unplug, turn around, grab guitar #2, plug in and complete the song. Sometimes that can happen in less than 10-15 seconds!
If you don't bring a spare, your set is postponed until you can re-string, re-tune, and re-set. If you are playing a short gig, you could end up wasting everyone's time (your time, your band's time, the venue's time AND the patron's time).
I play my Tele at every gig, but currently I also have a Mustang as a backup. Sounds similar enough to my Tele that if I needed to use it for the rest of the set I still have MY sound, but different enough that I don't feel like I just have a copy cat.
Les Paul Studio should cover a lot of territory for yo . Maybe an Epi version if you gig in bars
Get a 2nd guitar you really like. One that you would be happy to gig with for the entire show if something
happened to your Tele.
I have a bunch of guitars and I mix and match all the time. I've done our shows with
Gretschs, Flying Vs, Teles, Strats, LPs, LP Juniors, Yamahas, Ibanezes, DeArmond, Epiphones, Squiers, a 335-style guitar,
a Jazzmaster, a SuperStrat, you name it. They're all good. After picking up all of my guitars and playing them I still
can't pick a #1. My current desert island axes are:
my Partscaster Tele (fat neck feels good in my hands and it sounds uniquely Tele)
my Partscaster Strat (DG20 EMG pickup set)
Ibanez ES-335 style guitar (AS153)
cheap AXL LP Junior knockoff (its cheap Chinese P90 has amazing sizzle).
Fender Player's Jazzmaster (with P90-esque stock pickups)
I also love my LP Trad Pro but I never gig with it because it's too dang heavy and gives me a neck ache.
FWIW I'm about to go into the studio and I think I've narrowed it down to the Tele, Strat, and
AS153 for the studio session. I can get every sound I could want out of these three guitars. If I had
to bring one it would be the Strat. With the DG20 system that comes with two active EQ knobs, I can
coax an amazing array of tones out of this single guitar. If I had to bring two the second would be
the Tele-- nothing sounds quite like a Tele (although middle pickup of the DG Strat is pretty close).
Do you like a whammy bar? If so you might have your second guitar come whammy equipped.
What's your favorite color? Make sure that whatever you get comes in a color you dig....so you smile
every time you look at it on its stand.
How about an Epiphone SG G-400 Pro.
A bit more upmarket than the G-400 - the pickups are coil tapped.
I've seen a few guitarists recently who swapped between Tele & SG depending on the type of song.
Good value-for-money option: Fender Mustang 90 or Duo-Sonic HS (MIM — Offset Series, now rebranded as part of the Player Series). Look good, look a little different, some slightly different sounds to the Tele. The scale length is even shorter than a Les Paul but that wouldn’t bother me, they feel very comfortable to play. And they come in some cool colours.
If changing from the fender scale length to gibson doesnt bother you than the obvious answer is a cheaper gibson les paul or SG, like a studio or something with humbuckers. If it were me, I would pickup a good playing used MIM tele or strat and mod it. For an SS tele I'd put in some blade type humbucker pickups or find one that HH already. For the strat I'd mod it for HSH or HH. If you don't know how to wire/solder my suggestion might not work for you.
Fender actually makes a stock HSH Strat in the Player's Series-- $700, though. A used one could be had for
a lot less. HSH is pretty amazing for giving you every tone you could want in a single guitar....although HSS is also quite excellent. A lot of people don't use the neck pickup in full humbucker mode a whole lot, anyway....single coil mode sounds sweetly balanced-- the narrow single coil field of view thins it out to counterbalance the thickness of sound generated up at that part of the string.
My back up is another Tele, I do tune it to a drop C# to cover a couple of songs and it has a G bender but I really don't need it for tonal options, the Telecasters are capable of screaming when called upon. However if you feel you must have a humbucker equipped guitar then I would grab a Godin or a Carvin for an economically priced axe.
I would say to get the 2020 Epiphone Junior. Juniors are awesome models. Either humbucker or P90. I have a humbucker Junior and I rotated the pickup 180 degrees to put the screw poles on the neck side and raised them slightly. Gives more of a P90 vibe but still gives humbucking noise protection.
Do a full shielding project on all your gigging guitars. Make sure to swap out the Fender two wires to the jack with shielded cable. No, just twisting those wires does nothing, you need shielded cable just like from the guitar to the amp. While the soldering iron is hot, I would +1 the idea of putting a 4-way switch in the Tele.
Have you seen the Harley Benton guitars? Get that too Then you have a back up for the back up! Who knows, maybe the HB will be the main dive bar gig machine for you.
If I wasn't already swimming in guitars, just finding a playmate for a tele, playing the music you are describing, I think I'd get one of these (and I'd prolly end up playing it most of the time lol):
Or something roughly equivalent from another maker. Maybe the black one? This cherry is nice though.
If you can track one down, I would recommend an Epiphone Blueshawk Deluxe. P90s with varitone. Dummy coil for hum reduction. Light weight. Tons of tone variations and not expensive.
SG Tribute or Epi
LP Tribute or Epi
Jackson Dinky or Soloist
EVH Wolfgang FR Std
Or, something huge, bright orange, and Bigsby-equipped from Gretsch.
Wow, thank you so much you all!
I can't thank you one by one but I have really appreciated each single answer Really some good points here.
Yes I would, without qualifications. I suggest you pick up a newer one (post June 18). Pickups on the older ones were hot ("muddy" is an adjective I've often found). Precious little info about but in my limited experience of testing them my impression is that newer ones are better. Fit, finish, playability on mine are very good. Sourds too. Beatles all day, blues, jazz, Santana... I'd still suggest try before you buy to snatch a good one + factor in a good set-up. And if you can splurge, get him a nice Epi case.
Oh, and does your son know this YT guy? From a big Beatles fan to another
Thanks for the reply.
I think I'll take him guitar shopping nearer the time to try one.
I've also shared the YT video with him.
try the casino coupe too if you can find one. All still very casino just a little trimmed down and a bit better with feedback if you kick the gain up some.