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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by TokyoPortrait, May 21, 2020.
There’s a lot of talk about “musicianship” in the thread. How do you guys define musicianship? Maybe Hendrix wasn’t as technically learned as some, but in my mind his musicianship is second to none.
Guys like Les Paul and Django Reinhardt couldn’t read music, didn’t know a lot of theory, they played by ear and learned on the job.
Guys like Yngwie Malmsteen know a lot of theory and have a bunch of technical skill, but I’d rather listen to somebody like Robert Johnson that probably never had a day of real music lessons in his life.
Cobain was a smart guy, he knew something the rest of us haven’t figured out yet.
Literally the FIRST post...
Literally the one before the previous
Nirvana was the last real rock band... at least in the US. Everyone since them has just been recycling old ideas without adding anything new.
Did I love them? Not quite, but I loved their energy and how they brought people to rock music.
I loved all those grunge bands. I think it helped that I was in high school at the time. Sometimes angry and sometimes too angsty - that was the music for teenage me. I liked Nirvana, but liked AIC, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam more. I still listen to those 3 bands from time to time, along with some others from the era, but I just got burned out on Nirvana from the constant overexposure.
I don't think they would have been as iconic if Curt hadn't killed himself. They were huge at the time, but so were the other big name grunge bands.
This has got me thinking though. Those were some fantastic albums coming out fast and furious back then, by a lot of great bands. Chili Peppers really hit their stride with BSSM, Stone Temple Pilots, Smashing Pumpkins, Screaming Trees, Nine Inch Nails, Rage Against The Machine. It was a good time to be a teenager who just couldn't listen to one more Van Halen or Def Leppard song.
When I was a teenager(early-mid 00s) I went through a Nirvana phase. Loved them. Now I don't care for them or get the big deal. I agree with what has been said, they were the right band at the right time, but far from unique. Kurt had a certain something, but I don't consider him in my personal top songwriters. I like the music itself, the catharsis of it, but I'd rather listen to Jawbreaker.
I was fortunate enough to see them live in San Diego, December 1993. The show was great and still like their music.
They were alright...unworthy of the hype, though …..and I was wearing torn jeans and flannel in the '70's as a teen, for cryin' out loud. As much as I hate cover songs in most instances, I do like their Bowie cover
This is all true, but usually I just say something along the lines how I’m not qualified to judge a legend’s work.
Not because I’m a bad musician. Many of us are fantastic musicians, with more than enough ear to recognize the melodic sophistication of a song like Teen Spirit.
But because I didn’t have the drive, the willingness to sacrifice everything and live like a drifter and let everything ride on the slimmest of chances, well, here I am. It’s not just talent, it takes a whole lot of guts, desperation and sheer luck as well.
I love Nirvana, but let"s be honest:
It was just Punk music written by a depressive guy.
I prefer the Family Guy t-shirt next to it
I saw nirvana a crazy amount of times , the first time Was at a sub pop all dayer in 1890 Errr 1990 I went to the bar! I was there to see mud honey ah hindsight eh!
but I grew to love them, then when Courtney got involved I hated them, or at least kurt, ****ing junkie, cancelling shows! Oh how lacking in understanding we are when we’re young! I went on to love Courtney and hole but at 19 you think you know everything.
Isn't that a The Simpsons t-shirt?
I was being humorous
Oh I'm sorry for being Buzz Killington!
The lack of understanding displayed by some in this thread is colossal .