Ive been using tube amps since the 80s. I got a helix lt and a headrush frfr speaker, and i gotta say, i find it hard to tell a difference between the two. Dec 20th we played our first ampless gig, running everything through foh. Our other guitarist was using a bassman reissue but he picked up a kemper stage and it sounds great. It was different, thats for sure, and its something ill have to get used to. But load in/load out was a breeze. This modeling stuff sure has come a long way.