Heavy bottom, light top strings can twist the neck: True or False?

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  1. psykobilly

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    Uh.....huh huh.......whut?
     
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    I agree, a neck does not become twisted because of string tension. But since strings can bow a neck, I think that a very unbalanced set could worsen a twist that has happened already. And although it is very unlikely to happen, with such a neck I would not want to take chances.
     
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    Yep your tech don't know nothing , stop using him forthwith . :lol: I would say a lot of people use a light top heavy bottom around the world and I've never ever heard of this before .
     
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    No. Necks are made to handle a wider range of tension differences than what you are talking about. By far. Only a defective, unstable neck would shift. People create the same situation (varied tension) with alternate tunings. Should be no problem. There are undoubtedly a fair number of cheaper guitars out there made of crap wood and materials, and plenty of people can't even use a truss rod, but those are separate issues.
     
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    Bottom strings (the thick ones, in case your tech is wondering) commonly exert less tension than high strings, because they're slacker. So every guitar out there is already out of whack in that regard. And the necks aren't warping.

    This is one more example of guitar folk believing in voodoo and hearsay rather than common sense. I won't start on the others.
     
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    Get a new tech.
     
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    Or save your self a fortune and do it your self , it really isn't hard.
     
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    Succinct! :D
     
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    What about Keith Richards playing a Tele with only 5 strings? Holy crap, the neck on that thing would be a pretzel by now if there were any truth to this.
     
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    Er yeah its false lol
     
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    "Heavy bottom, light top strings can twist the neck: True or False?"

    I haven't noticed it. I have noticed that if my underwear gets twisted I get very irritable. Does that count?
     
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    Nah.
     
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    Liked purely for your use of “forthwith”.

    I like the cut of your jib, good sir!
     
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    Maybe on a really thin neck?
     
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    @Chunkocaster , what a lolly stick lol or balsa wood perhaps.
     
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    Sure, but 10-52 is not higly unbalanced. It is a sligntly unbalanced set that every string manufacturer is carrying, called "light top heavy bottom". Some may use it for drop tuning since droping the low E to D will give the same tension as a 46 string and regain balance. But many players use it with regular tuning because they like it.

    Well, no, on a regular 10-46 set the low strings are either balanced or exerting more tension. But anyway we can agree that it is not a problem.

    As Obsessed said, look at strings charts or apps like the d'adario website: http://www.stringtensionpro.com/

    You'll find that the difference between 46 and 52 amounts to 4lbs. The six strings together are pulling on your guitar's neck something like 120lbs (60kg).

    This could be seen as a minor problem for a collector of fine old instruments. But these kind of custom sets are more usefull to players, and if you have the use for it then it's not a problem at all.

    A last thought: a guitar tech should know some way of improvement for your buzzing problem... Simply raising the low E and A string is a good idea if you are heavy handed. First setup, then maybe you'll need fret level.
     
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    Some necks are prone to twisting regardless of the sting gauge. It's possible on a neck like that that's already thin the mismatched gauge could create a problem. Especially if you like a low action and vintage radius/ frets.
     
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    What a silly idea. I used to play heavy bottom, light top 10-52 on my Ibanez. No issues. I play Hybrid Slinky on my Tele and Strats. No issue.

    The differences in tension are measured in ounces. Image how unstable the neck would be if such slight differences in force could twist the neck. If this were the case, simply picking up the guitar with a 4lb body would be enough to damage it.

    Maybe you misunderstood the tech or maybe the tech needs to think before he speaks but give it a moment of thought and you'll realize how ridiculous a thought it is.
     
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