Heard a Brownface for the first time: WTH am I supposed to do now??

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Luthier Vandros, May 28, 2019.

  1. caspersvapors

    caspersvapors Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    276
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2008
    Location:
    CA
    what exactly was tweaked with the 63 aside from the speakers?
     
  2. ecoast

    ecoast Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    802
    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2017
    Location:
    NWNJ
    my ampeg j20 satisfies my brownface itch in spades...
     
    Luthier Vandros likes this.
  3. swampyankee

    swampyankee Tele-Holic Gold Supporter

    Posts:
    750
    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2015
    Location:
    Southeastern MA
    I totally get it! I thought a blackface Deluxe Reverb was "my sound" until, after I had to sell mine, I bought a modded Custom Vibrolux Reverb as a cheaper replacement. I fell in love with what I soon found out was the 6G16 brownface circuit - or at least a reproduction of it. I ended up trading it for a '63 VVRI which is now my desert island amp. Nice enough with a Strat, but I'm digging it with my Tele as well.
    I have some representatives of the BF/Sf family as well as Bassman and vintage Ampeg tones, but the VVRI has center stage in my music room.
     
    Luthier Vandros likes this.
  4. elihu

    elihu Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    7,363
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Location:
    Texas
    Brownface Super with the harmonic tremolo...

     
  5. John Owen

    John Owen Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Age:
    62
    Posts:
    1,464
    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2010
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    ^^This^^

    I was lucky enough to stumble into acquiring a 62 Princeton back in the early 1980's when it was just a 'used amp' that was too small to be considered anything but a toy. Based on the fact that I paid less for it than I have paid for a set of good strings, I didn't really appreciate it until several years later. Fortunately I discovered how wonderful it actually is instead of inadvertently letting it slip away. At this point in our relationship, if for some reason I could only keep one piece of music gear, the Princeton would be the item I would keep. In that scenario I would not have a guitar to play through it but, even if I had to rely on begging/borrowing random guitars, I could still get the sound that makes me smile with that amp.


    princeton.jpg
     
  6. Luthier Vandros

    Luthier Vandros Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    632
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2015
    Location:
    Down by ya mom an them's
    I’m originally from Louisiana. Pretty sure you’re mistaken.
     
  7. Silverface

    Silverface Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Age:
    67
    Posts:
    9,408
    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Location:
    Lawndale CA
    I do hope you're keeping fresh filter caps in it!
     
  8. Silverface

    Silverface Poster Extraordinaire Ad Free Member

    Age:
    67
    Posts:
    9,408
    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Location:
    Lawndale CA
    Oh - you guys live outside all the time, right? :lol:
     
  9. John Owen

    John Owen Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Age:
    62
    Posts:
    1,464
    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2010
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Yep! Got a grounded power cord and a road case too. Trust me - I'm taking REALLY good care of that little guy.
     
    nojazzhere and Luthier Vandros like this.
  10. AJ Love

    AJ Love Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    53
    Posts:
    2,388
    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2005
    Location:
    Madison WI
    The mosquitoes in Louisiana are the size of hummingbirds, but meaner

    Re Amps --- if what you got don't sound right, thou will continue searching, whether via practice or purchase or both, until you are satisfied or dead, or both... These are the truths we cannot ignore
     
    Alter and Luthier Vandros like this.
  11. Luthier Vandros

    Luthier Vandros Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    632
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2015
    Location:
    Down by ya mom an them's
    I’m originally from Louisiana. Pretty sure you’re mistaken.

    Prett much like all the prop
    Yep. Like all the California prop 47/57/ab109 beneficiaries ha.
     
  12. Zipslack

    Zipslack Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    316
    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Location:
    Mississippi
    I camp in a 30' travel trailer. I'm in south Mississippi and I'm afraid those damned Louisiana mosquitos will migrate!
     
    Luthier Vandros and theprofessor like this.
  13. dannyh

    dannyh Tele-Afflicted

    Age:
    53
    Posts:
    1,386
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2005
    Location:
    North Texas
    I feel your pain...

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Ok the Princeton isn’t brownface on the outside, but’s it’s still a 6G2 on the inside. I like the RI Vibroverb too. It’s a little closer to blackface than most of the other 6G amps ime, but a great amp.

    You're infected...good luck
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  14. Tomm Williams

    Tomm Williams Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,101
    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2016
    Location:
    USA
    F0B09569-E836-49F0-BEA2-462F99A0FB61.jpeg D9143615-4118-4ED0-B043-8E7CF4811FD6.jpeg My 61 Pro and RI reverb unit with my 1980 Yamaha SA2000. The cab is a J Design custom that’s a bit lighter and more compact than the original. It also sports a 12” Lil Texas for further weight reduction.

    Love me a Brownface

    EDIT

    Included another pic with the SG
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  15. Luthier Vandros

    Luthier Vandros Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    632
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2015
    Location:
    Down by ya mom an them's
    Those mosquitos don’t play. What’s worse are the horseflies!

    Damn fine stable, Danny! How the hell do you choose what to bring? I’d end up having a brown snowman behind me at every show.

    Tomm, do you find the reverb up front pushes the amp a bit? Any comments on using an outboard unit? Looks like good times and could help me get rid of my “reverb in the amp only” bias. I wish I didn’t see that lol.
     
    dannyh likes this.
  16. Tomm Williams

    Tomm Williams Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,101
    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2016
    Location:
    USA
    You know Luthier I can't really say if it does or not. I have a number of different vintage reverb units including a Premier 90 which does in fact add a bit of gain but the Fender seems pretty tame in that arena. My 2 cents on outboard reverbs is the sound can't be beat (at least by any pedal I've tried) BUT, a pedal is a lot more convenient.
     
    Luthier Vandros likes this.
  17. PigBoy

    PigBoy Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    333
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    Get in touch with Jim at Lil Dawg.
     
    brbadg and MickM like this.
  18. Dacious

    Dacious Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    6,950
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2003
    Location:
    Godzone
    Single best sounding Fender amp ever. I'd had a spare 10 minutes and rocked into this geetar shop in Durham, UK. On tourist duries in 2000.

    The guy had literally just unboxed a Brown 62 Princeton. He plugged a 67 rw board Tele into it.

    Stock Oxford 10" ceramic speaker IIRC.

    What a sound. Looked like the one above with brown Rolex.

    Just stunning. Fat round tones, articulate crunchy chords, dig in a little more - full, sweet, singing sustain. We just looked at each other open mouthed.

    He said he'd bought it for his stock - he hired out vintage stuff to touring artists and recording studios but he was sure one of his regulars would offer him obscene money for it. This was before the days of Fleabay - bulletin board sale. Easily giggable for small venues.

    I've looked for that sound ever since and it's ghosts are best found in that Tweed cathodyne inverter or cathode follower preamp recovery common to some Mesas, Marshalls.
     
    Hammerhead and John Owen like this.
  19. chezdeluxe

    chezdeluxe Poster Extraordinaire

    Age:
    69
    Posts:
    9,375
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Location:
    Brisbane Australia
    I’ve got a 63 6G3 Deluxe and a 63 6G12A Concert.

    They’re OK I guess.
     
    Luthier Vandros likes this.
  20. ruger9

    ruger9 Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    6,238
    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2004
    Location:
    Hackettstown, NJ
    Actually, speaking of reissues, I've heard nothing but RAVES about the Stapleton brown Princeton... and I'm not talking about magazine reviews, but players/owners.

    ...and it's handwired, just like the originals (no PCBs here)... which is RIGHT, since it's $2K
     
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.


  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.