Heads Up: Fender Tone Master Deluxe Reverb 2019 Black

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  1. The-Kid

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    maybe if they were 700$ for Deluxe and 800$ for twin repectively but in all honesty a fair MsRP would be more like 750 for the twin and 650 for the Deluxe new....this is Tone Master here I am talking about.

    I dont see these even doing in a Hot Rod Deluxe or Blues Deluxe either.
     
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    The DRRI lists for $1,100. The TMDR lists for $900. If the TMDR sounds the same as the DRRI, costs less, is lighter, and offers a bunch of added features, then plenty of people will consider them a good deal. This is confirmed by the fact they are sold out everywhere and are universally praised by those that hear them. Pricing is set by the market anyway. If they don’t sell, the price was too high. If they do sell, the price was right.
     
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    Plus, you need to account for the attenuator and cabinet simulation if you’re trying to compare the costs.
     
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    Yep....according to some reviews these are the best thing Fender has ever done....sounds EXACTLY like a real tube amp, is 50% of the weight, and has superior versatility. And yet......someone is selling one that is less than a year old. When I get an amp about which I can say those things, I am NOT selling it ASAP. Ommv....
     
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    time will tell, I agree. I do know that IF I wanted one of these——-no chance of that at all, I would buy a new one IF there is a warranty. I would ring that sucker out, too, just to make sure it would last through the warranty.
    Side story...I have a friend who bought a TR version of this amp due to the weight. He also sold his Harley some time back when he dropped it in his driveway and could not pick it up. He is younger and a little bit ‘better built’ than I am. I stand 6’5”, am about to turn 69, and weigh just over 160 pounds. Last September I made the mistake of riding across a small spillway....slowly and in a straight line. In the middle of the spillway, all of a sudden my helmeted head and left side hit the concrete...hard. I was in the middle of a moss covered concrete spillway with the Softtail in my avatar on its side....with an immediate and considerable headache. So...how does an old skinny man stand on what was essentially the same as wet ice and get a Harley upright???? It wasn’t easy, but I got it done. Physics, right? If I can do that, I can carry a real amp. Ommv..... and others may consider these TM amps real. Times change.....but if I can’t carry an honest tube amp I will get an all tube preamp and go to the board. I know exactly what one of these new TMaster amps is worth to me. And I do certainly understand that OMMV.
     
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    Did you consider that maybe the person selling the amp didn't say all those things about the amp? ;)
     
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    no. I figured that if someone bought an amp that was supposed to sound like the real BF amp that it cosmetically resembles and that IF it sounded like what they thought they bought, then they would not be selling it.
     
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    Well if one person on earth prefers something else, then it must suck.
     
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    Well...I bought a Boogie Mark V a couple years ago. It sounded just like a Boogie Mark V is supposed to sound! After owning it for a bit I decided it wasn’t the right amp for me and I sold it.


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    Hhmmmm






    Your using your using this logic stuff......



    Im sorry could you please explain it more simply and thouroughly while I put on some headphones and bury my head in the sand.....?



    Thank you
     
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    I figger they're selling the TMDR because they just bought the TMTR.
     
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    ime, a Mesa MKV has so many sounds innit that I personally could not possibly explain what it sounds like....except to say that in the right hands it can clone any sound one might want....IF that person knows how to adjust all of the variables.
     
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    maybe so....they want more of the deal at almost the same weight?
     
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    For a Benjamin more, why not?
     
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    Who knows what the circumstances are?

    Once I bought an Epiphone Casino. It looked and sounded and played exactly how I imagined. Great guitar. I was a student and some unexpected expenses came up a week or two later related to a summer internship. The guitar had to go despite it being perfectly fine.

    Later I had a Baja Telecaster. Great guitar. Wonderful tone. Sold it within six months to get a Lennon 65 reissue Epiphone Casino. (I did finally end up getting another Baja 6–7 years later!)

    People sell gear all the time and it doesn’t always have to mean they didn’t like it or that it didn’t meet expectations.

    Regardless of the reason, the fact is that there just aren’t a lot of used options for these amps. That tells me two things. One, that Fender is being selective with inventory — which is smart. Two, that the customer buying these amps generally knows exactly what they’re getting and is happy with it — reviews I’ve seen back that up.

    The above could change in coming years as the market continues to evolve, particularly in the digital space, but for the foreseeable future, Fender has created something that customers are happy with and holding onto. I really don’t see prices bottoming out on these anytime soon.
     
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    We’re seeing one model after another keep flowing out of Fender. Remakes of all the amps, they’ve alway done. But now so many solid state amps to replicate the originals and reviews keep getting better. Year over year it keeps getting better it seems.

    I am interested to see if a Tone Master BF Princeton Reverb is in the cards. Or maybe a BF Vibro Champ? What about a tone master 6G2 or 5F1 tweed Champ? Anything is possible I suppose. I wonder how close they’ll resemble their cranked up vintage tube relatives?
     
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    I might not have been clear enough

    I had it set to 1 watt on accident. I just mentioned it because i thought it was funny. For it to be attenuated down to 1 watt it sounded very good still. I could tell there was something wrong, but it was subtle

    In full power i think theres a small difference in how they sound cranked. Its not even like one is better. The reissue is just a bit smoother

    I liked both amps. I would love to have the tonemaster
     
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    I still like my Tone Master Deluxe Reverb after several months of owner ship.
     
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    Today at the music store I saw the new Tone Master Twin R. I plugged in a new professional series Strat and tried it out. I have owned several Twins. I still own a ‘73 TR.

    I set it at max power. The Tone Master had the Fender spank. Felt like it could cut through anything with some clean vintage country twang. It could also be shimmery and quacked nicely with the Strat. The EQ was good. Not bad at all.

    I then set the attenuator to 5W and cranked the volume to 10. I don’t think I’ve ever turned a vintage Reverb to 10. The tone master sounded ok. It broke up. It wasn’t what I look for in a Twin R. Maybe that is what a vintage SF TR sounds like? I can’t say.

    I thought they almost tried too hard on the spring reverb effect. A little too much. My ‘73 reverb is more usable up the dial. The Tone Master made me cringe a little above 3.5 or so on the dial. The vintage tube reverb is mo’better. Reverb on ten, it does not sound like the old Ventures tunes. My ‘73 sure does.

    The vibrato:As I turned the intensity up it became more and more choppy sounding. Like maybe a block-type sine wave with square corners. Not sounding very much like my warm smooth ‘73 tube & roach type vibrato. The ‘73 sounds more like a nice curved sine wave. Musial like. Not the Tone Master TR.

    Not bad Fender. The foundation seems to be there. Definitely getting close, aside from my whining about the effects. The speakers sound great. Jensen Neodymium. The amp is indeed light at 33 lbs. I see a good step forward here in SS amp progress.
     
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