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Headless neckthrough

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by gangreen, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. gangreen

    gangreen Tele-Afflicted

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    Picture if you will a 2 1/2" maple,walnut,maple,walnut, maple strip comprising the center of a neck through headless Strandberg-ish 6-string electric guitar. Walnut body with a maple top. Floyd Rose speedloader fixed bridge and nut. Railhammer anvil at the bridge. Maple fretboard.

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    Here we go.
     
  2. 2groggy

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    Subbed. I'm thinking of building a headless bass and may take inspiration from your shape.
     
  3. I_build_my_own

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    Normally I like classic shapes but this one is growing on me. This will turn out cool.
     
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    Hope you talked to Ola about this. I think one has to indicate the Creative Commons Licence etc and share the design with other people as mentioned on his web page.

    Not trying to grind you down! Ola is quite a generous guy and should be respected.

    I like the design changes a lot, especially that swoosh on the lower bout...
     
  5. gangreen

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    Ola was contacted regarding the design and gave his approval. And as always, happy to share, nothing to hide. Thanks for mentioning that.
     
  6. hemingway

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    It looks great - but to me one great advantage of Steinberger-like designs is the access to the upper frets. This one doesn't look to have that degree of access. Looks really promising, though.
     
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    You're right. After looking at that mock up it became apparent that my body scale was off. Try this one on for size.

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    Here is the center strip with the walnut backs of the wings.
     
  9. vuduchild

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    You make a good point and I'm glad Ola was contacted. The lower bouts in particular (and critically the ~45% knee rest on the left ) are almost exactly the same.

    There are some key differences, like the FR speedloader bridge. Since it does not need the 'tuners space' to overlap the tail, it is not necessary to expose that space, so it can be used as a knee rest without compromising the tuners which is not an insignificant difference.

    In theory! I look forward to seeing how this turns out.
     
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    Trippy. This one looks like an exciting build. Looking forward to the final results.
     
  11. gangreen

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    First body was 12.25" stem to stern and once cut out seemed a bit small. It was scaled up to 14" and that's what's below.

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    Starting with 1 5/8" thick walnut but that will get thinned out once the top is on. White paper represents a book matched spalted maple cap, which will be ~1/4 - 5/16" thick. Fret board is curly maple to match the maple strips in the neck.
     
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    Routed the truss rod channel and cross channel for the spoke wheel.

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    With the fretboard sitting in place.
     
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    Roughly what the maple cap will look like. Used a Minwax liquid stabilizer to, well, stabilize the soft spalted maple.

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    Removed 5/16" from the center around the fretboard. This will accommodate the maple cap.


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    Another view.

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    Maple sitting (kind of) in place.


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    From the side.
     
  14. hemingway

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    Really liking this.
     
  15. gangreen

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    From the end zone.

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    Centerpiece rough profile. Neck lay back is 5.5mm from nut to 12th fret carried to the tip of the fretboard. That was the layback on the hardware-donor guitar.

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    Contemplating knob placement.

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    Seems about right.

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    Cavities in the wings and a proposed channel to lie under the maple cap.
     
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    Connected the cavities with a 1/4" x 1/4" channel with some wiggle room around the pickup location.

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    Taped off the cavity.

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    Cut the maple plate to fit roughly.

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    3/4" MDF caul for clamping.
     
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    Maple front attached.

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    Shaped the back of the neck and heel.

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    Rough heel carve. Feels like there's too much there.

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    Feels about right.
     
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    You are a machine mr gangreen. Amazing work.
     
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    Superb, refreshingly different!
     
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    Heres the guitar from which the hardware was taken. Made a template for this bridge cavity from 1/2' sandply. Front end of the cavity was a bit tight on the original so I added 1/8".

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    Took it down 7/16". The original cavity would have left ~1/4" at the rear so I opened it up all the way. Nothing will stick out that end to get in the way as a leg rest.

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    From the endzone. Also started contouring the top.

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    With the HB cavity routed 1" deep.

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    Bridge and a borrowed Railhammer in place. PU on this will be chrome Railhammer Anvil.
     
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