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Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by ping-ping-clicka, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:49 AM.
The internet scientists are getting too good
Ι played the TR next to a regular TR RI in a shop last week.
The TR RI sounded better.
The amp by itself wasn't bad at all but 1200 EUR for a SS/digital amp?
Wow. No more typing without readers for me. I corrected my post.
But yes, this is what I would do for home. Turn it down to the .2w setting or whatever and crank it to 7-8 on the volume.
As explained to me, BF/SF Fenders are basically all power stage and post power stage overdrive. I like that sound and feel. Hitting the front end hard instead creates lots of preamp distortion. Which I don't like in a BF/SF Fender.
Word of warning, even on the lowest attenuated setting, the TMDR is still well above normal conversation levels when cranked . . .
The first part - fine. Taste, preference, whatever. Totally understandable.
The second part I don't understand. How much should a super loud, giggable amp with a solid cab, 2 twelve inch speakers, attenuator, and direct out with two deferrable mic sims and quality pots cost?
That's 100% correct. If done judiciously I do find that I can get some nice tones hitting my Twin with a little heat (it's a '73 for reference) but totally agree that it can go bad very quickly. Since getting an AC30 clone I use my Twin almost exclusively clean which is where SF amps really shine.
While not for me, I'm interested in seeing how the Tone Masters do and am glad that Fender is putting resources into developing a high end digital/SS platform.
If it was $300 or $400, I'd consider one. For the better part of a grand, nuh-huh.
They're priced to not cut too much into the tube line, but they ain't worth the money.
Not worth the money TO YOU.
I own a TMDR, and love it. Owned the DRRI, 68 Vibrolux, PRRI, loved them too. But when I see these threads I just want to...
But....but.....tube amps are SUPPOSED to be more expensive!!!
Because...because...um....well there's TUBES in it!!!
Nope, Fender’s still waiting for the first person to try one out.
I got a Tone Master Deluxe Reverb when they first came out. It has never disappointed me. I'm getting where I don't use my Princeton reverb much any more.
I’m curious enough to want to try one. But not enough to actually go seek one out.
I played the Deluxe Reverb a couple weeks ago. It sounded great. It has a feature set that I find appealing for home/recording use. I wish they had a Princeton Reverb option because I would prefer the single channel and smaller footprint.
I think that makes my point, not yours.
A single 12 amp versus a 212 amp. Not a solid pine cab. Not the same level of pots, etc. Not branded 12" speakers. Oh, and much heavier even though it's a 112.
Hence, it's much cheaper.
Don't get me wrong. I love Roland/Boss amps. I have no issues with them. I own and love a JC40.
A closer comparison would be the JC120 by the way. 212 amp. Though still not a solid pine cab. Which, incidentally, the same website lists for over 100 Euro MORE than the Tonemaster Twin. https://www.thomann.de/gr/roland_jc_120.htm
And you know what Unicorns say, so beware: