Harmonic like noise on G-String

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  1. TheBoss1983

    TheBoss1983 Tele-Meister

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    Hey there,

    I heard a harmonic-like noise when I play the open g-string. It only appears when playing the open string.
    Just touching the string behind the nut between nut and tuners result in a clean and fine sounding string without that noise.

    Will a second string guide help? I will also try out to wind up a little more string around the tuner-shaft...

    What would you think?
     
  2. ricknbaker

    ricknbaker Tele-Afflicted

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    Have you tried a new string? Does the nut slot look OK? Does the string sit in it properly?
     
  3. Saint Invective

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    My first thought would be "sounds like the nut slot is slightly too big."
     
  4. TheBoss1983

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    It seems the string fit the nut perfectly. How do I find out that a nut is slightly too big?

    Also guitartech told me a few minutes ago that a string guide will make the noise stop. He will find out if the nut is too big...
     
  5. ItchyFingers

    ItchyFingers Tele-Afflicted

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    I would go with the extra string tree. It certainly won't hurt anything and the price is right.
     
  6. TheBoss1983

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    Before I'll forget: I hear that noise fade out after touching or muting the string.
     
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    String needs to be wound down further on the tuning peg.
     
  8. TheBoss1983

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    I already tried this today. It wasn't the solution...
     
  9. Saint Invective

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    If it were bad enough to cause audible harmonics or sitar-like sounds, you'd probably be able to feel it move in the slot just by using your finger to wiggle it from side to side.

    If it looks and feels tight in there, then it's probably something else.
     
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    altough the title made come to my mind something really different and nothing about guitars .. :D

    I think another string tree might help, i had that once but there was a nut problem, it's not your case you say. so the string tree should help.

    Cheers
     
  11. LutherBurger

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    It's probably a bad nut slot, but a second string tree might add sufficient downward pull to stop the noise.

    A temporary solution might be to wrap a rubber band or hair tie around the headstock and strings behind the nut.
     
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    Just take a piece of scotch tape about 1/4" square and bend it over the string. That will deaden it and it's clear so you don't even see it. Quick simple fix.
     
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    I tried out that but it doesn't feel like it's moving in there... Hmmm.

    I was told, the problem could also be the angle of the "nut-cut".

    I hope it's done with the second tree. :neutral:
     
  14. surfoverb

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    tie a piece of rubber band around the G string behind the nut.

    yes a new string tree will work the same but thats not free
    and your tech needs money so he wont tell you about that.

    a rubber band will work for years. Its temporary only cuz rubber doesnt last forever.
     
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    This is a common thing. Scott Grove has a whole YouTube video about it. You can even stick a piece of foam or something under the string. Another string tree will work, but like someone else said, it's not free, and on top of that its just one more hole that you'll need to drill into your guitar.
     
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    Sympathetic resonance. I had it on my 52 RI, added a second string tree and problem solved.
     
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    I've had that happen a few times over the years. Yes, it's almost certainly a bad nut slot. I use a small piece of kitchen sponge underneath the string behind the nut.
     
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    I have seen a guitar with a piece of leather shoe lace woven in and out of the strings behind the nut. It killed all harmonics and was something so simple.
     
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    Before you add a second string tree, push down on the string behind the nut and see if the noise stops. If not, the string may have worn it's way through the nut material to the point where the nut needs to be shimmed or replaced. It's a pretty common problem, especially with plastic nuts.
     
  20. cousinpaul

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    Sorry, double post...
     
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