Guitar neck dimensions database

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  1. kaludjerko

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    The dimensions and shape of the guitar neck is arguably the most important for comfort of guitar playing.
    Also these are largely some of the less specified parameters of our instruments.
    I have a desire to make some sort of database of few parameters of the neck size. For now I will focus on Thickness (Depth) and the width on 1st and 12th fret.
    Some I managed to measure myself, some you contributed on this and other places and I will measure when chance present itself. If you would like to contribute with data and pictures of course :), you are very wellcome.

    Let us start:

    Duesenberg, Starplayer Special:
    1st fret: Thickness: 20.4 mm; Width: 42 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 22.7 mm Width: 51.5 mm

    Brian May Guitar (BMG, made in Korea)
    1st fret: Thickness: 22.2 mm; Width: 45.4 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.9 mm Width: 52.8 mm

    Tokai, Goldstar Sound 'oldies but goldies' (blue-green, body with matching headstock, block letters)
    1st fret: Thickness: 21.3 mm; Width: 42.3 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.3 mm Width: 50.7 mm

    Strandberg Sälen Deluxe CAR
    1st fret: Thickness: 22.2 mm; Width: 42 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 22.4 mm Width: 51.7 mm
     
  2. BorderRadio

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    I like this idea but I found the 1st and 12th don't always show the whole picture or not possible on certain archtops and acoustics. Also, add in profile? Hard to quantify that one beyond the basic "U, D, C and V.
     
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    I completely agree with you that this doesn't give complete picture.
    Regarding the profile shape I have no clue how to quantify that. My gut would tell me that we might disagree what U vs. D vs. C shape would be, from one guy to the other.
    What was interesting for me was howdifferent, for example Strandberg vs. Brian May feel near nut, although they have same neck thickness there. All other parameters are different though, neck width, scale length, profile shape.
     
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    It seems that orignal post is locked now.
    I was hoping that I will manage to edit original post and update it with new measurements.

    If anyone reading this thread knows how to edit orignal post, please do let me know.
    For now I will post updated lists in new posts.
     
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    They lock after 24 hours or so, no way to unlock them without mods stepping in, and they probably won’t. I’d just do like that, add things to this thread as they come up. Speaking of, I have a table of Gretsch neck dimensions, but haven’t had time to post. Forgot about the thread actually :) I have a lot of dimension now that I think about it, but not in one spreadsheet, which is really what the database should be.
     
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    Updated on 10th January 2020

    Fender Telecaster, Custom Shop 53, Heavy Relic
    1st fret: Thickness: 25.4 mm; Width: 42.2 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 25.4 mm Width: 52.2 mm

    Gibson Les Paul, True Historic 1958 Les Paul:
    1st fret: Thickness: 23.0 mm; Width: 45.7 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 25.6 mm Width: 52.6 mm

    Yamaha Pacifica, Telecaster Mike Stern, PAC311S (Rosewood)
    1st fret: Thickness: 20.4 mm; Width: 40.5 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 22.5 mm Width: 50.6 mm

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    Posted on 23rd December 2019

    Duesenberg, Starplayer Special:
    1st fret: Thickness: 20.4 mm; Width: 42 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 22.7 mm Width: 51.5 mm

    Brian May Guitar (BMG, made in Korea)
    1st fret: Thickness: 22.2 mm; Width: 45.4 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.9 mm Width: 52.8 mm

    Tokai, Goldstar Sound 'oldies but goldies' (blue-green, body with matching headstock, block letters)
    1st fret: Thickness: 21.3 mm; Width: 42.3 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.3 mm Width: 50.7 mm

    Strandberg Sälen Deluxe CAR
    1st fret: Thickness: 22.2 mm; Width: 42 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 22.4 mm Width: 51.7 mm
     
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    Thank you for the support. :)
    Spreadsheet is acctually a good idea.
    For now, I'll keep it as is and just keep adding additional info as I collect them.
    It was holiday season, so i managed to get access to some nice specimens at my friends places.

    Otherwise, I do not have access to large number of guitars to measure, so any additional info is very wellcome. :)
     
  8. beagle

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    Unfortunately, measurements from one guitar doesn't apply to the next one off the production line, they all differ a little bit, some a lot.
     
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    That's true - just look at all guitars on the Wildwood site that are the same model and you can see the range of variability. A neck cannot be too thick for me, so I appreciate vendors and sellers to go to the trouble to measure the thickness.
     
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    You are very correct sir. :)
    In an attempt to keep some consistency, I do my best to find out exact guitar model.
    At the end, all changes are possible at manufacturers discretion.
    My intention is to get a general feel for different models and satisfy my own curiosity.
    If someone finds this interesting and useful, all the better.
     
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    thank you for mentioning Wildwood guitars.
    I didn't know that they list neck thickness, this is great.
    I also found that width at the nut is important parameter for the feel as is thickness.
     
  12. BorderRadio

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    Yes the width at the nut is very important, as is shoulder which can't be meaningfully measured, even a profile view is too abstract--gotta feel it.

    I'm not trying to detract from the database idea, I think it's a good idea in someways, for the gear obsessed, meaning all of us at one point of another :)
     
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    Updated on 14th January 2020, (thanks to tubelectron and beagle for sharing their measurements)

    Harley Benton MS-60LH, Mustang like guitar, 24" scale
    1st fret: Thickness: 21.0 mm; Width: 41.0 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.1 mm Width: 50.3 mm

    Harley Benton JA-60LH, JazzMaster like guitar, 25.5" scale
    1st fret: Thickness: 22.4 mm; Width: 42.4 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.3 mm Width: 52.6 mm

    Harley Benton DC-Junior TV Yellow, JazzMaster like guitar, 24.75" scale
    1st fret: Thickness: 22.6 mm; Width: 43.0 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.9 mm Width: 52.6 mm

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    Updated on 10th January 2020

    Fender Telecaster, Custom Shop 53, Heavy Relic
    1st fret: Thickness: 25.4 mm; Width: 42.2 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 25.4 mm Width: 52.2 mm

    Gibson Les Paul, True Historic 1958 Les Paul:
    1st fret: Thickness: 23.0 mm; Width: 45.7 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 25.6 mm Width: 52.6 mm

    Yamaha Pacifica, Telecaster Mike Stern, PAC311S (Rosewood)
    1st fret: Thickness: 20.4 mm; Width: 40.5 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 22.5 mm Width: 50.6 mm

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    Posted on 23rd December 2019

    Duesenberg, Starplayer Special:
    1st fret: Thickness: 20.4 mm; Width: 42 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 22.7 mm Width: 51.5 mm

    Brian May Guitar (BMG, made in Korea)
    1st fret: Thickness: 22.2 mm; Width: 45.4 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.9 mm Width: 52.8 mm

    Tokai, Goldstar Sound 'oldies but goldies' (blue-green, body with matching headstock, block letters)
    1st fret: Thickness: 21.3 mm; Width: 42.3 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 23.3 mm Width: 50.7 mm

    Strandberg Sälen Deluxe CAR
    1st fret: Thickness: 22.2 mm; Width: 42 mm
    12tht fret: Thickness: 22.4 mm Width: 51.7 mm
     
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