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Guitar brands time forgot.

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Grabsplatter, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. Grabsplatter

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    Not long after that, 1963, my first proper amp was built. A Burns Sonic 30, with the legend "all transistor" on the control panel. It still makes a noise, despite many years of inattention.

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    The second channel is exactly the same as the first, except it has only a volume and treble pot.
     
  2. MDent77

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    Nice.

    That was my first thought. Sears Silvertone, Harmony or {back in the day} a guitar one could find at Woolworth (Kay or maybe Teisco?).

    If you were lucky, it may have come with your first Mel Bay book. :)
     
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    My very first guitar was a "Global" Les Paul copy that I bought for $59.00 at Sam Goody in Crabtree Valley Mall in Raleigh, NC around 1979 or so. Didn't have any direction to learn to play for a few years so it sat until I was like 13 a few years later. Ended up selling it for a profit, and bought a Sears Bass, and a $5.00 "Kingston". Those were the first guitars I ever owned that I actually played on.
     
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    There name hasn't been forgotten, but the quality has. I didn't own one because they were far too expensive... but does anyone else remember the original BC Rich line of guitars? The Bich (10 string) and the Mockingbird in particular. I don't see the originals around... just the cheap knock off of themselves.

    I'm sure they just learned that you can sell 1000's of sub $500 dollars and only a handful of $2000 - $5000 guitars (remember, that was late 70's and early 80's). Whether you like the shapes and electronic complexity or not, those early BC Rich guitars were nice instruments.
     
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    LMAO Oh my God that's hilarious and oh so accurate. I did go out and buy a Mel Bay Bass Book so I could at least learn the names of each string and figure out how to tune that damn bass. I'm sure I played most of the exercises too because back then I was actually willing to read music but rock and blues have spoiled me ever since. :oops:

    What's even more ironic is that I was like that kid in the joke who didn't show up for his third bass lesson because he'd already gotten a gig with a band. LOL In my case it didn't happen quite that fast but six month later I found myself as the bassist in my first rock band and I hadn't even had one lesson from anyone but old Mel Bay. :D

    Thanks for posting that tune and it was even better since I just saw Tommy Emmanuel in concert for the first time and got to meet him after the show. He's one of my all time favorite guitarists and a very polite and gracious person. It was one of those deals I can now cross off my bucket list. :)

    You know I never appreciated that bass like I should have either. Couldn't wait to get rid of it and I don't even recall where I did. All I know is that as soon as we got a manager and began gigging regularly and I could afford that new '66 LPB Jazz Bass like the one in my avatar I was all over it and that was the end of that first bass.

    Then a couple of years ago I see one advertised in a vintage guitar magazine and the seller is asking $950 for it. :eek:
     
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    Framus was/is a German guitar maker (probably made in China now ) sold mostly into Europe and England. They worked with Bill Lawrence when he was still a performing musician, under the name Billy Lorento, http://www.framus-vintage.de/modules/infos/info.php?katID=4610
    its quite a nice guitar - the electronics are all mounted on a chrome plated steel pickguard, including the pickups, so the guitars top was intact and could resonate properly.

    Bill Lawrence also designed the Gibson S1 - which was sort of a Gibson Telecaster, 3 single coil pickups and a chickenhead switch. He kept making pickups, I own a couple. [​IMG]
    the framus Billy Lorento model - designed by Framus and Bill Lawerence

    THe S1 (Gibson and Bill Lawrence)
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    Framus also made some nice acoustic guitars which show up on Ebay a good bit for not too much money. They aren't particularly collectible at this point, but if you want an inexpensive guitar
    to experiment on they are worth a look.
     
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    just noticed the guitar in the image is probably the "Billy Lorento" model - these are worth in excess of 1K$ if in decent condition. One way you can tell if its the original model or the later reproduction, is the original has no truss rod, and it hardly if at all gets wider from the nut down to the body, the neck is skinny!!

    It is a thinline hollowbody, it has a non-standard size guitar jack on it, it was some sort of twist on threaded mic connector cable I think, can of course be adapted to a 1/4 inch, or you can still find the cables on the net.They were made in the 1950's I think.
     
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    Thanks, AAT65!
    I must've gotten España guitars confused with another European brand, like Levin or Goya.
    I had no idea they were from England.
     
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    Shergold out of the UK, here is my 1976 Masquarader that I owned since new.

    The Yamaha bass which I have also owned since about 1976 is also a bit of a mystery because this is the only pic I have seen of this particular model, I have seen a twin pickup version and single pickup with a chamfer around the edges but never this layout.

    I pulled the very muddy soapbar P90 and put a 1970s Fender bass HB in it's place, 30"scale and a bit like a Tele in that so many different voices can be coaxed out of it depending where and how you play it
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    all I had was the neck..... not sure what Casino guitars were like, asian strat copies. I guess?....


    I put it on another free body I got, threw some spare PU's in, new strings and gave it to a school kid...... :)

    I had to trick up the neck pocket to get it to fit.... I think the body had a shredder neck on it with more frets... came up ok for something I put together in an afternoon from odd parts... casino headstock.jpg strat builds 3-15 small.jpg
     
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    On both accounts NO.
    http://www.usmusiccorp.com/warwick-framus/
    They are made in Germany by the same people who gave us Warwick basses and they actually have a big roster of American stores which carry their instruments, even stronger Phil X has a siggy model with them.
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    Anyway, to get back on track with this thread. My first electric guitar was one of THESE...
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    Which is a Rockson RJ series.
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    Neck like a longbow with fret ends that would injure your fingers. Rockson is still around as the cheapest of the cheap carried by German stores such as Musicstore.

    I also owned several Vesters, which was a Korean made brand. I actually played my very first live show using a black on black Vester telecaster copy and always check auction sites trying to find one. Just for old times sakes.
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    This scan from a Vester catalogue firmly places the brand in the era from which they came.

    Perhaps, I should hook up with fellow enthusiasts of the brand and resurrect it and have them produced in Indonesia...
     
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    My first guitar back in the mid 70's was a really nice LP Custom copy in Wine Red made in Japan. I believe it was an Aspen. Also had an Aria LP around the same time. Late 70's I moved onto a real Gibson Custom LP and traded both the Aspen and Aria
     
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    Maybe things are very different here in Japan, but I'm boggled by some of the big brands people are citing as 'forgotten'. Hohner, Westone, Kramer, Aria Pro (my neighbours), Ovation, Takamine. I thought I had a bad memory, but I hadn't forgotten any of these. Never mind that I've seen examples of all of them in my local 2nd hand shop in the last month.

    For me a 'forgotten' brand is something more like my brother's Grenn, which essentially doesn't exist -- on the Internet, anyway. It's probably by Teisco. Or my first guitar, an Avon Les Paul copy, which I think was by Rose Morris, but which deserves to be forgotten, not least for the cheeky way in which the humbucker covers, removed, revealed single coil pickups.
     
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    My first electric was one of these, an Aria Diamond. Affectionately known in my circle of friends as "The Slab". I think I paid..., no I don't actually remember how much I paid for it, but it was a horrible, horrible guitar. The one in the photo is for sale at a music store about an hour north of me and they want $489 for it. Now if only I'd kept mine I'd be rich. :rolleyes:
     
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    I had an Avon Les Paul copy in in about 1972
    I have a Picture of me playing it Through a FAL 50 Amplifier ( will Try to find it in a Mo
     
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    Here It is !
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    Kapa. I bought one of these in 1978 for $160. Have you ever tried to keep a 12 string with a tremolo in tune for more than 5 seconds? No? didn't think so. Mine was red but had a Kapa Continental neck on it. Cool looking but a real POS.
     

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