Grounding Issue (Lace Sensors)

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Just noticed this nasty hum in my telecaster. As I understand, lace sensors should be relatively quiet. I plugged in a different guitar to make sure it wasn't my amp and that guitar was a ton more silent than my telecaster. I know nothing about grounding. How do I go about fixing this? Here are some pictures
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When does it hum? What can you do to make it better or worse? Is this something new, or has the guitar always hummed? Do you have other single coil guitars?
 

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When does it hum? What can you do to make it better or worse? Is this something new, or has the guitar always hummed? Do you have other single coil guitars?
I had just got it back from being fit with the killswitch, push pull, and lace sensors. It buzzes when I'm not touching the metal parts of the guitar, and when I touch them it clears up. With the volume knob, it crackles when I touch it (not when using it, just when touched) this is something I hadn't noticed. Also, lace sensors are supposed to be noiseless.
 

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Bring it back, if it's not your environment, equipment, cord whatever, (you checked) it shouldn't have left the shop like that.


You did try it with the control plate up and out of there like that too right ??
 

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Bring it back, if it's not your environment, equipment, cord whatever, (you checked) it shouldn't have left the shop like that.
I agree. I'll probably do so. I plugged in my cobain jaguar to make sure it wasn't any cords or anything. Jaguar was almost totally silent (and that has a Dimarzio super distortion in the bridge!)
 

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I agree, take it back. Charging somebody to make a mess like that isn't right.
 

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I agree, take it back. Charging somebody to make a mess like that isn't right.
I took it back and he tested the grounding with a meter. It's grounded. Also, he plugged it in in the store and it was totally silent. I'm very confused. I sent him a video of the buzzing it makes at home and he said he'd shield it for me no charge.

Does fender shield their higher tier guitars? As I had said, the jaguar is completely silent. Maybe it's because of all of the metal covers on it?

I'm just rather frustrated because the pickups that were supposed to be relatively noiseless are louder than my Super Distortion equipped guitar.
 

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I took it back and he tested the grounding with a meter. It's grounded. Also, he plugged it in in the store and it was totally silent. I'm very confused. I sent him a video of the buzzing it makes at home and he said he'd shield it for me no charge.

Does fender shield their higher tier guitars? As I had said, the jaguar is completely silent. Maybe it's because of all of the metal covers on it?

I'm just rather frustrated because the pickups that were supposed to be relatively noiseless are louder than my Super Distortion equipped guitar.

the Lace Sensors are true single coils, they will be noisier than your humbucker equiped guitars. However, they should be low noise. It sounds like your guitar needs shielding. Noise which goes away when you touch the grounded parts (strings, knobs, output jacks) usually points to lack of shielding.

What pickups did you have in there before which were quieter?
 

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the Lace Sensors are true single coils, they will be noisier than your humbucker equiped guitars. However, they should be low noise. It sounds like your guitar needs shielding. Noise which goes away when you touch the grounded parts (strings, knobs, output jacks) usually points to lack of shielding. What pickups did you have in there before which were quieter?
They weren't any quieter, but they were the Standard MIM pups. I thought that the lace sensors would be quieter than them but they're about the same buzz volume.

Also, I did find out it was a lack of shielding with the help of someone on the Strat-Talk forum. The Kurt Cobain jaguar I have which is virtually noiseless has shielding in the form of paint all throughout the cavities while the telecaster doesn't. Guessing this is the reason the sensors don't sound different. There's also a ton of mods on this guitar that added more wires to the instrument, which serves as a pretty good antenna, I'd think
 
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