Greenback-like 10s?

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  1. JohnnyCrash

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    I’ve got a 2x10” combo of a JCM800 flavor that needs some top end and midrange warmth (it uses 6L6s and has a strident upper midrange).

    I could go with Celestion Greenback 10”s, BUT they’re pricey AND I want a pretty safe power handling for a 50-60 watt amp. Two 25-30 watt speakers isn’t going to cut it.

    Any suggestions?

    I don’t necessarily need a GB clone, just something of a similar flavor (slightly “warm” toned down highs, and a creamier/looser midrange... I guess “warm” is the overall thing I need to tame harsh highs and rigid sounding mids).

    I was considering a pair of Eminence Ramrods... is this a bad decision?
     
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    I have a Ramrod, and it's great IMO for a "non-Jensen" sound, and has great power handling for a 10. It's one of the warmer 10s that I own, with a bit more top end bite than my Celestion G10N-40, which is supposedly similar to a Celestion G10 Greenback ("on paper").

    The one thing that is either a plus or a minus with the Ramrod is just how LOUD it is. If you've ever experienced the loudness/efficiency of the Ragin Cajun, the Ramrod is just as loud. A pair of either one of those in a 2X10 setup is going to get loud fast.
     
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    Celestion g10 vintage? Not exactly greenback like, but still British sounding. Very nice speaker. 60 watts I believe. Have one in my Princeton.
     
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    Perfect.

    It’s a gigging type of combo. Volume on tap is a good thing with this old amp build!
     
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    G10 vintage great. I had ramrods. Loud. More like v30
     
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    The G10 is marketed as sounding similar to V30s...

    I love V30s, but I already have a 2x12” cab loaded with them.

    For this particular amp build though, I need something a little warmer than a V30 on the top end.
     
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    wgs green beret
     
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    I think there are 3 g10 types. ? But I could be wrong. Weber has nice one too . Recently love my supro bd10
     
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    If you're looking at eminence, strongly consider their RF10C (ceramic Red Fang). It has sounded excellent in my Vox AC10C and my Marshall Origin 20. Great speaker.

    Other than that, like caspersvapors said, WGS Green Beret.

    - Bob
     
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    Jensen Mod 10-50 are warm. two would handle 100 watts. And they are cheap. I'm not really promoting them but finding warm, cheap and lightweight is tough. The 10-50 is definitely warm.
    I have 4 Mojo labeled Emi's, not sure what they actually are but they are quite warm.

    Interestingly I dont consider a 12" GB warm at all. "Crisp" would fit my thoughts on them. (Although, in a closed back cab maybe they would be warm?.)
    In a DR: too crisp for me long term, although for a minute I liked it.
    In a Pro Reverb: I used two while waiting for recones ....liked them, but not warm.
    I will say that when you drive a GB into compression, like a loud lead, then they tend to warm up a bit, but for normal chording , comping and riffs, they just dont come to mind as warm.
    Other warm 10's: Maybe the Emi 1058?
     
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    I’m replacing MOD 10-35s :D XD
     
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    The G10V is the motor (magnet, coil, spider) of the V30. It doesn't sound quite the same but could be spiky.

    I have a Emi C75 12" that would fit the bill in a ten, but no ten - 75 watts, very GB-ish in my 4210. Slightly softer but a nice woodiness with some chime.

    Maybe the Emi RF10C? Speaker curve looks GBish. 50 watts.
     
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    He said he wants more power handling. I say 1 Ramrod, 1 Legend 1058
     
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    Never tried one but the copperheads get a lot of love too.
     
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    I’ve got a Legend 1058 in my Super Reverb-shoehorned-into-a-Princeton 40 watt blackface build.

    It’s not even broken in entirely and it sounds great.

    However, I’m leaning towards the Ramrod type sound.
     
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    Looks like I’ll have to look for Copperhead clips. Thanks!
     
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    I too have the Ramrod. It is loud!
     
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    Lorantz C256P - 30,50 & 75 watt
    10" & 12" check them out. Cranbourne Music Shop & shipping should be cheap via Australia Post to anywhere.
    Edit: Sorry Melbourne Music Centre has them. Also Lorantz are made in the original Plessey factory in Melbourne I beleive. You have to beat them into submission but once broken in, nice.
     
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