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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by dented, Nov 17, 2018.
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It's not about hunting for me it's about displaying the photo, it's inappropriate.
Well, according to law she absolutely was a licensed hunter with the authority to cull the deer herd for ecological purposes. And you have no idea about her level of training, but I am going to assume her grandpa is responsible enough to make sure she hunts safely and ethically. I am involved with wildlife biology here in the state of Missouri ( you should Google Mo. Dept. of Conservation, we are about the best in the country) and there is a VERY sound, scientific purpose for hunting. The fact that it is heritage and tradition and people enjoy it is completely irrelevant to the fact that wild animal populations MUST be controlled. The number of hunting permits sold is equal to the number of animals biologists want culled, period. The actual number of animals killed is almost always significantly less than the number of animals that NEED to be culled. The vast majority of hunters are ethical and properly trained to take game with minimal suffering. Perhaps you would benefit from a Hunter Education course. You don't have to hunt, but at least then you would have a basic understanding of what it is, what it means and what it involves. Since you are in the UK, I don't think you have any business second guessing the work of wildlife biologists in the US. You could concentrate your efforts on your own government if you wanted to do something positive. The state of your non-linking, dwindling forestry has left your historic island wildlife population largely eradicated.
I think the title " Granddaughters first deer" is pretty self explanatory. You clicked on the thread most likely already knowing the kind of comments you were going to make.
If there is a rule against it here you have a point. Is there?
Bones, I enjoy looking at your pics, and I enjoyed the pic of the granddaughter with her deer. Like was said, you knew what you were getting into when you opened the thread.
Congratulations to the new big game huntress
There are just certain topics that put stress on our little community here, even when they aren't against the rules...
After a while around here, it's pretty easy to predict when a thread is gonna go pear-shaped.
No, if the thread said "graphic photo inside", then everyone would know what they were in for. Maybe it was just going to be a story in text.
Graphic photo? Ha ha Yeah, it's really graphic. I guess you have never watched The Discovery Channel or National Geographic.
I have killed baby dolphins, want to see the photos?
I saw a photo just an hour ago of a dolphin who was shot to death on a beach in Southern California. You want to be outraged, I can tell. So go find that post on FB and let your voice be heard.
The OP is not about conservation or being part of a responsible cull nor is that conveyed in anyway.
ALL licensed hunting in this country is about responsible culling and conservation. Man, educate yourself before you speak.
The single largest group of conservationists in the US are hunters. It's not called preservation.
This is really strange. You make some very valid points here in a totally reasonable way. I respect that you have both local and professional knowledge about the wildlife/ecological situation in your geographical area. What you seem to be unwilling to grasp is the fact that this thread did not start off as a debate about the ethics of wildlife management or even about the ethics of hunting per se. This thread originated with the posting of a picture that would undoubtedly cause offence to some people. I suppose it’s inevitable that these things degenerate into a situation where it’s OK to call some one an ‘*******’ - the asterisk code doesn’t really matter, because we all know what it means. It strikes me that you in particular, with your specialist knowledge, can make a really worthwhile contribution to the conversation and maybe can even get this Bambi lover thinking about this issue from a less emotional perspective. But, do you really need to resort to dismissing my viewpoint because I need to keep my ‘limey’ nose out of US affairs? (I do agree with what you say about the situation in the UK, by the way!)
That was a response to someone calling a small girl a murderer.
And again, if the photo is against forum rules all these objections are valid. Is it against the rules?
I never used the word limey. You did. And as far as I'm concerned, regardless of your location, if you are uneducated about US wildlife biology I think your comments on it are invalid.
In some parts of our country hunting is a way of life.
If I see a thread that doesn't interest me, or I think might be upsetting to me I don't open it. I'm betting that some of you opened this thread just for the opportunity to be offended.
If you are referring to my post, you have seriously misinterpreted it.
There is a difference between Hunting and Killing . I am a former member of Safari Club International . I used to go hunting - I never went killing . I no longer hunt because I do not want to kill anything anymore . . .
I'm not questioning your authority on the subject of wildlife conservation but I do think you are missing most of the points raised here and are acting as an apologist for an OP who posted nothing about conservation ( I don't think anyone has assumed that the hunt itself was illegal).