Good replacement speaker for hotrod deluxe?

[xRockOveRx]

Hope that one works out well for you. WGS does sell fine speakers but the Reaper HP is still a British voiced speaker however and typically those will have a more extended top end and a tighter low end and don't work quite as well to do what you described you're looking for tonally.



An American voiced speaker may be a better choice and most any of the hemp cone speakers will give you smoother tonal response across the entire frequency spectrum and tone down those icy highs. They're known for that. It's possible the Emi George Allesandro may work well for you too but as I have no experience with it I can't vouch for that as I can a CRex.

All thing considered though if the tonal issues tend to fall on an amp being a bit darker or more middy than preferred then Brit voiced speakers like Greenbacks, Creambacks, or a Vintage 30 usually fit the bill and on the other side of the ledger an amp that sound to bright and edgy will benefit more from an American voiced speaker with a rounder bottom end and smoother high end. JMHO based on my own experience.

Whats an american voiced speaker that is 60 watts?

 

[GuitarJonz]

The ET-65 is a great speaker, but if the HRD is 40 watts, I'd probably lean towards the ET-90 instead, just to be safe.

 

[soulman969]

Whats an american voiced speaker that is 60 watts?

Well WGS has two listed that are 75w speakers. You might want to call them and discuss what you're looking for tonally and what they would suggest.

https://wgs4.com/catalog/american-vintage

You could also use an Emi Crex. It's a 50w speaker that would also work in a Hot Rod Deluxe. My BC 60 runs 60w and it's fine even in that amp. Unless you're playing heavily distorted stuff and full volume all night long a 50w-75w speaker will live a very long and happy life in your amp.

You should play what sounds best to you but with what you're after discussing that target with someone at WGS or Eminence may get you some helpful guidance toward the best speaker for those needs. That's what I did so I'm only suggesting a path I found helpful to me.

 

[soulman969]

The ET-65 is a great speaker, but if the HRD is 40 watts, I'd probably lean towards the ET-90 instead, just to be safe.

I'm not in anyway trying to be argumentative but the need to use a speaker that's double the wattage output of an amp is a fallacy when we're talking about modern speakers whose peak limits are far above their rated wattage.

This is something I discussed with the head of Eminences Product Design staff before I ordered a 50w CRex for a 60w amp. It's not that you can't ever destroy one but you'd have to almost be trying to do it intentionally to accomplish it.

Tom's example was something like playing the low E string only at greatly distorted max volume levels for several hours before that voice coil would heat up enough to be fried and a hemp cone will take a lot of volume before it would blow.

If I was a guy playing nothing but highly distorted heavy metal on four hour gigs each night then I might adhere to that doubling to be safe but for most of us we'll never even come close to frying a voice coil or blowing a speaker cone under normal use as long as that speaker it rated for the output of that amp or very close to it.

 

[xRockOveRx]

The ET-65 is a great speaker, but if the HRD is 40 watts, I'd probably lean towards the ET-90 instead, just to be safe.

The stock speaker is 50 watts. I think 65 watts is more than enough lol.

 

[xRockOveRx]

I'm not in anyway trying to be argumentative but the need to use a speaker that's double the wattage output of an amp is a fallacy when we're talking about modern speakers whose peak limits are far above their rated wattage.

This is something I discussed with the head of Eminences Product Design staff before I ordered a 50w CRex for a 60w amp. It's not that you can't ever destroy one but you'd have to almost be trying to do it intentionally to accomplish it.

Tom's example was something like playing the low E string only at greatly distorted max volume levels for several hours before that voice coil would heat up enough to be fried and a hemp cone will take a lot of volume before it would blow.

If I was a guy playing nothing but highly distorted heavy metal on four hour gigs each night then I might adhere to that doubling to be safe but for most of us we'll never even come close to frying a voice coil or blowing a speaker cone under normal use as long as that speaker it rated for the output of that amp or very close to it.

I want to try a british voiced speaker. I think I am leaning towards the ET65. The price is under 100$ hey, if I love it....I will leave it....if I don't, I will try something different. Vaughn from WGS said his favorite is an ET65 in a hot rod deluxe....even though the reaper HP is the most popular. I think the ET65 is going to have a more noticable impact in sound. I'm curious to see how it's going to sound!! I'll let you all know once I put it in soon.

 

[xRockOveRx]

I'm not in anyway trying to be argumentative but the need to use a speaker that's double the wattage output of an amp is a fallacy when we're talking about modern speakers whose peak limits are far above their rated wattage.

This is something I discussed with the head of Eminences Product Design staff before I ordered a 50w CRex for a 60w amp. It's not that you can't ever destroy one but you'd have to almost be trying to do it intentionally to accomplish it.

Tom's example was something like playing the low E string only at greatly distorted max volume levels for several hours before that voice coil would heat up enough to be fried and a hemp cone will take a lot of volume before it would blow.

If I was a guy playing nothing but highly distorted heavy metal on four hour gigs each night then I might adhere to that doubling to be safe but for most of us we'll never even come close to frying a voice coil or blowing a speaker cone under normal use as long as that speaker it rated for the output of that amp or very close to it.

I guess thr ET65 id going to make high gain settings sound a whole lot better. And with a strat there will be no problem maintaining the sparkly sound....I'll just crank the treble and presense!

 

[soulman969]

I guess thr ET65 id going to make high gain settings sound a whole lot better. And with a strat there will be no problem maintaining the sparkly sound....I'll just crank the treble and presense!

Play whatever sounds best to you....always. Happy hunting.

 

[GuitarJonz]

Agreed, if Vaughn says so, I'm sure he's right, and the ET-65 should be fine in the HRD. The 2x wattage suggestion probably doesn't apply anymore, with modern speaker designs, and brand new speakers.

 

[xRockOveRx]

Agreed, if Vaughn says so, I'm sure he's right, and the ET-65 should be fine in the HRD. The 2x wattage suggestion probably doesn't apply anymore, with modern speaker designs, and brand new speakers.

It doesn't apply. HRDx is s 40 watt amp with a 50watt speaker. I've heard of people using 30 watt speakers in a HRDx. Now here is a question...Whats the difference between 50hertz and 75hertz...how will that effect the sound? A lot of WGS speakers come with those 2 options.

 

[vanr]

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