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Oh and the 330 has 500k pots, not sure what’s in the sg, I picked it up, loved the tone and have not touched either of the guitars, they are perfect as is
 

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Here's a video of the es 330 that I have. I don't know how you would describe the sound of the pickups but I love them. The specs call them hum cancelling P90's.


I have one of those hum cancelling [pickups. They are not very popular though. Been debating putting it in the neck of my Casino. Sounds great on it's own in your demo, but there is a weird tone whenever the two pickups are combined!
 

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I've had an Epiphone SG with P90s for about a year now. It's not my first P90 guitar, but it's the only one I'm playing regularly. The only "dark sounding" issue I've had is that I'll be wailing away on the bridge pickup and the unwound strings sound just perfect, articulate and clear, then I'll get on the low strings and it'll sound a little dark and muddy. I'll roll the tone knob up a little and the low strings will sound great, but then the high strings get a bit too bright, so I usually just find a happy medium and go with it, but I need to play around with the pickup heights.
 

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The Cavalier Bear P90 is wound to 10k and has Alnico 5 pole mags (I believe).

It is fairly sweet/clear with a bit of edge/oomph, when driven, in the neck position of my Schecter PT 90.

The stock pu was muddy and I wanted something clearer, but with P90 power.

imo.
 

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I've been a big fan of Genuine (modern) Gibson P90's for quite a while. They seem to run ~7.9k ohms.

In the early 2000's I bought a triple Gibson P90 set with the old wiring loom/pots attached very reasonable. Eventually i sold one of the pickups and the loom assembly to a buddy on the Weber Forum... WHAT A MISTAKE! I realized after doing that , that what I had was a vintage set from a Gibson Switchmaster! UGH.

It was interesting, back in the old days, Gibson P90's were not all the same. That Switchmaster set had a neck pickup that was about 6.1k ohms IIRC. While the bridge pickup was near 8 ohms and the middle pickup was somewhere in between.
In the early days of Ebay there were a lot of vintage bargains that today would be worth big bucks.
 

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I've got a Fralin neck P-90 that is under-wound by 10%

I've never checked its dcr, but I guess that 10% under would put it right around 6.5k

I use it in the neck of a Tele with a Cavalier Fat Lion bridge

It balances out very nicely, and even being a P-90 in the neck position, I can still get great note clarity and some of that sparkle and chime that the vintage-wind P-90s have

Too many winds and you get into that mid-range heavy, chain-saw grind type of tone


I think Lindy's spec on his regular P-90's are fairly low to start with - like 7.2k neck, and 8.2k bridge

Fralin also uses A4 magnets for his P-90's instead of the more common A5


I also have an older set of StewMac Parson Street P-90s in a guitar that sound very good

The neck measures about 8K and the bridge 8.4k, with A5 magnets


I figure that if I can get the nice, sparkly, and chimey tones that I like from a pickup - I can always boost or over-drive that tone if I want to dirty or thicken it up ;)

But when the pickup tone is thick and dirty right from the get-go because of too many winds, you are pretty much stuck with that tone no matter what you do

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I'm not doubting you. I'm guessing that Gibson is aiming for a different crowd. Guys that are looking to overdrive their amps a little easier, and taking tone in an entirely different direction.

There is a definite trend towards hotter, more over-wound pickups

When you listen to the earlier music - from the 50s, 60s, and early 70s, you realize that the guitars generally are much cleaner and less distorted than the stuff that comes later

And then, I don't think there is much question that those distorted and grinding tones from hot winds can cover up a lot of our little mistakes or sloppy technique ;)

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50s wiring is a must. I stagger pickup pole setting to taste. Sometimes close sometimes not
Love Gibby p90s
 
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I've had a fair number of P90s through the years. Vintage Gibson P90s - 50s era - were the ones that impressed me. Other Gibsons I've tried, OK but not great.

I've had the best luck recently with Lollar standard winds. You'll read posts about these being "too refined", similar kinds of descriptions. To me, they're perfect. I'm not looking for uber volume nasty from P90s. I like clarity, depth, and not too dark. That's exactly what I hear in Lollars. They will roar with higher volume ... and sound just as good clean, medium volume.

Another P90 set that impressed is the Wolfetone Mean/Meaner combination. Excellent.
+1 I’m in total agreement
 

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What's out there for Dog Ear covers?. Seems they are all the same more or less.
I see pictures of Allparts Dogear covers, and the neck one looks thin... maybe... but no specs on pole spacing or height of the cover anywhere. Anyone have them to measure?
I put Gibsons in my Casino today but need cover changes.... The neck is too high and the bridge is too low.
I have some P90 spacers, they are dog ear shaped, but they are quite a bit bigger footprint. Do they make net shape ones?
 

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I love P90's and I love Gibson P90's!

Mine is the MHS P90's in the 2018 Memphis ES-330.. they're never dark.. very chimey and fat..

Though I put Lollar shims to raise the bridge pickup and balance it with the neck output

Untitled by D Y, on Flickr

Untitled by D Y, on Flickr



Nevermind the title, this is an instrumental and no words/lyrics.. just pure guitar tone
 

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I love P90's and I love Gibson P90's!

Mine is the MHS P90's in the 2018 Memphis ES-330.. they're never dark.. very chimey and fat..

Though I put Lollar shims to raise the bridge pickup and balance it with the neck output

Untitled by D Y, on Flickr

Untitled by D Y, on Flickr



Nevermind the title, this is an instrumental and no words/lyrics.. just pure guitar tone


I'd listen to more of that.
 

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play with the pole screws to adjust your P90's by ear.... string by string...

P 90 poles1.jpg
 




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