Gibson NGD (sort of)

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Hey yall! last week i was out and went to a sam ash (not many guitar stores close to my house, nearest one is like 25 mins away). went in to try some guitars as i had time to burn, but didnt plan on buying anything, as im trying to downsize a bit and dont have a ton of money atm. but you all know how it goes, the second guitar i tried was a 2022 gibson es335 satin dot that i fell in love with. ive played an epiphone 335 before but this was way better. tried a casino and sg, both were back on the rack within 10 minutes and i was back on the 335. long story short, i have a 3 year payment plan that let me bring it home, sounds and plays even better with my rig and perfered strings.
 

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Also not much talk of the new calibrated t type pickups in this thing, what are yalls opinions on them? the neck sounds amazing, but i feel like the bridge is overly bright with the tone past 7 through most amps
 

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That's really nice! Congratulations!

I can't comment on the calibrated T-type pickups, I've never tried them unfortunately.

I can send you my address :)
 

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Congrats. Try lowering the bridge pickup first. That *should* knock down some of the bite. You may then need to lower the neck pickup too for balance....
 

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Also not much talk of the new calibrated t type pickups in this thing, what are yalls opinions on them? the neck sounds amazing, but i feel like the bridge is overly bright with the tone past 7 through most amps
There's no reason to avoid using the tone control on the bridge pickup, I've played Gibsons for quite a few years, and I set my amp for a good neck tone, and never hesitate to roll down knob on the bridge. Most players I know do the same.
 

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There's no reason to avoid using the tone control on the bridge pickup, I've played Gibsons for quite a few years, and I set my amp for a good neck tone, and never hesitate to roll down knob on the bridge. Most players I know do the same.
thats what ive been doing, i do similar with my tele but its way easier with the seperate bridge and neck controls
 

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Congrats. Try lowering the bridge pickup first. That *should* knock down some of the bite. You may then need to lower the neck pickup too for balance....
i tried it, i like how it sounds close to the strings as it gives the bridge a bit more heat. i just keep the tone control rolled down, best of both worlds :)
 

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Its been a month since i got it and i can confidently say that was definitly not a honeymoon phase, every time i pick this guitar up it blows me away. It is such a well made guitar, and really is the sound ivr been looking for. I have made a couple changes just experimenting with stuff i had laying around that i think have definitly made it sound better though. I put a sd seth lover in the neck pickup, and i really like what it did to the guitar, but it seemed to make the bridge pickup sound ice picky. Then i swapped the pole pieces between the neck and bridge, so the sd has a5 poles and the t type has a2 pickups. That really enhanced both pickups, but i think im going to change the bridge pickup to a seth lover as well due to squeels at higher volumes that just doesnt happen with the neck pickup.
 

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Its been a month since i got it and i can confidently say that was definitly not a honeymoon phase, every time i pick this guitar up it blows me away. It is such a well made guitar, and really is the sound ivr been looking for. I have made a couple changes just experimenting with stuff i had laying around that i think have definitly made it sound better though. I put a sd seth lover in the neck pickup, and i really like what it did to the guitar, but it seemed to make the bridge pickup sound ice picky. Then i swapped the pole pieces between the neck and bridge, so the sd has a5 poles and the t type has a2 pickups. That really enhanced both pickups, but i think im going to change the bridge pickup to a seth lover as well due to squeels at higher volumes that just doesnt happen with the neck pickup.
SD Seth lover's are unpotted pickups, so I wouldn't necessarily expect that to get rid of the squeals in the bridge, though it might be better than the pickups you have in there, what kind of amp/effects are you using and where are you turning the k-nobs too?

Gibson humbuckers don't have magnets for pole pieces either, Fender pickups do, Gibson style humbucker magnets are bar magnets on the bottom of the pickups between the coils and the baseplates I believe. So I'm not sure what swapping the pole pieces did. Did you swap the screws or the slugs, assuming the screws?

Did you take the cover off the bridge pickup and put it back on? If so that's probably why your pickup is microphonic now, it's probably a loose cover.

If that's the case you can probably simply remove the cover and it should be better, or take it somewhere and see if they can repot for you or whatever? I'm assuming the stock pickups are wax-potted, I think even Burstbuckers are. Some of the CS stuff probably have unpotted pickups but I doubt the rank and file pickups are unpotted.
 
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https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/...ng-with-pickups-102-the-humbucker-magnet-swap

jic you're interested in what a gibson humbucker looks like pulled apart

I've got some A4 magnets in my sock drawer. I was going to try to swap out the magnets in some burstbuckers that I didn't like in my les paul, but I swapped out the pickups with some tyson-tone lab pickups instead and I gave away the original pickups so in the sock drawer the magnets remain.
 

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SD Seth lover's are unpotted pickups, so I wouldn't necessarily expect that to get rid of the squeals in the bridge, though it might be better than the pickups you have in there, what kind of amp/effects are you using and where are you turning the k-nobs too?

Gibson humbuckers don't have magnets for pole pieces either, Fender pickups do, Gibson style humbucker magnets are bar magnets on the bottom of the pickups between the coils and the baseplates I believe. So I'm not sure what swapping the pole pieces did. Did you swap the screws or the slugs, assuming the screws?

Did you take the cover off the bridge pickup and put it back on? If so that's probably why your pickup is microphonic now, it's probably a loose cover.

If that's the case you can probably simply remove the cover and it should be better, or take it somewhere and see if they can repot for you or whatever? I'm assuming the stock pickups are wax-potted, I think even Burstbuckers are. Some of the CS stuff probably have unpotted pickups but I doubt the rank and file pickups are unpotted.
I wasnt sure why the lovers arent squeely where theyre unpotted, but its just what ive noticed. I dont run a super trebley rig so its not an excess of treble either. Also, i did swap the screws, i always assumed that was the magnet, guess not. I looked it up and people said the kind of steel and length of the pole pieces use can change the sound. No covers removed, and it had the squeels before hand. Not sure if the t types are potted, cant find that info online.
 

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https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/...ng-with-pickups-102-the-humbucker-magnet-swap

jic you're interested in what a gibson humbucker looks like pulled apart

I've got some A4 magnets in my sock drawer. I was going to try to swap out the magnets in some burstbuckers that I didn't like in my les paul, but I swapped out the pickups with some tyson-tone lab pickups instead and I gave away the original pickups so in the sock drawer the magnets remain.
Thank you for this!
 




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