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Gibson Les Paul Vs SG necks

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Seasicksailor, Apr 15, 2021.

  1. Seasicksailor

    Seasicksailor Friend of Leo's

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    I have an SG but I have never even touched a Les Paul.

    As far as I know, the necks between the two are very similar on paper (scale length, radius). Of course, there is a lot of variability in necks even within SGs and within different LPs.

    What I have been wondering is whether there is any element in a neck that makes it distinctively SG or distinctively LP.
     
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    Boreas Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Not that I am aware of, but I am no Gibson expert. The SG is basically a double-cutaway LP.
     
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    The biggest difference is the neck/body joint. The difference in construction makes upper fret access very different between the two. It also makes a difference in balance, and how they play. I love them both, but an SG always takes a minute for me to get used to. It always seems like all the notes and chords are 2-3 frets (distance feel, not literally) to the left of where they would be on a Les Paul or other guitar. As far as neck shape/feel, I think they’re very similar depending on model. The big “rounded C” on many SG guitars is a lot like a 50’s LP neck, to me.
     
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    They both look amazing, but I cannot keep an SG in tune.
    I have better, but not great luck with Les Pauls.
    For me, the SG's neck joint is just too small and unstable.
    Your results may vary.
     
  6. northernguitar

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    That shouldn’t be a problem. Sounds like SG needs a new nut. If it’s completely defective, you can give worthless SG to me....
     
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  7. Seasicksailor

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    Thanks everyone. I guess you confirmed my suspicions. One day, I have to try a Les Paul just to try to figure out what the fuss is all about. ;)

    Quite happy with the tuning stability of my SG. It is no Tele, but it'll do. When I gig, I tune the tele mostly out of habit and compulsion between songs... with the SG it is essential at least once mid-gig. I can live with that though.
     
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    MilwMark Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Even a stable SG neck is more susceptible to being “pulled” sharp and “pushed” flat than an LP (where I’ve never had that issue).

    As much as I love SGs I’ve concluded LPs are better for me. Some combination of the SG neck/joint and strap button placement (around 20th fret) makes it uncomfortable to me. Even though it’s bigger and deeper, an LP melts into my frame where an SG sits “on” me.

    As far as necks, I’ve found SGs to be more likely to be a “D” shape with more shoulder than LP where even slim taper seem to be more of a C. Both are comfortable to me.
     
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    I sometimes wish my Epi SG ( which I just got last year- my first) had a double-parallellogram inlay at the 12th fret, since I'm still getting used to all 22 frets clear of the body, and my own 'left hand GPS' is off on the neck, compared with Fenders. I sometimes am two frets higher than I'm supposed to be!
    But the neck itself is comfy, and love its sound.
     
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    Seasicksailor Friend of Leo's

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    Hah! I couldn't articulate it, but I can relate to this.
     
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    When I had an SG, I decked the tailpiece to alleviate pulling sharp.
     
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    I’m not sure I can picture why that would matter? The neck itself will still flex, won’t it? Not attacking you here. Just can’t figure it out.
     
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    Not sure on your end. I have polyneuropathy and arthritis and pulling can be a problem if I’m fatigued while playing. It wasn’t a problem on a 2006 SG Standard. It had a bone nut replacement and with the tailpiece decked, I was fine. I sold it thinking I’d get one with a slim taper neck, but life (home expenses) got in the way.
     
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    It only took 46 years of playing
    ( I just never really tried an SG in all this time)
    to realize that an SG would be the perfect 'Gibson' for me ( mine is an Epi).

    By this I mean two humbuckers, four controls, 24.75" set neck, mahogany body etc. And of course the Classic body designs.

    I've owned an Epi Les Paul, Alley Kat, Casino, and 335- styles many years, and between the size/weight/pickups, they just seemed OK, and I would sell after a few years. Miss the Casino though!

    Then a collector buddy of mine ( former bandmate), maybe 10 years ago, got a real Cherry Gibson '61 SG RI., and I started to play it when I came over for jams over the years, loved it!

    But it took me years ( just $$ is tight) to get even an Epiphone, but finally last year. With the coil taps ( 2018 SG Pro) this guitar is a party!
     
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    I only got my SG a couple of years ago. It scratches the humbucker itch... but (don't let her hear this) she's no tele. :rolleyes:
     
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    Everyone's different on this one. Personally, I've never played a Les Paul that I really loved and they just aren't comfortable to play in my opinion, but I love my SG. I know plenty of people who say the exact opposite. Different yanks for different cranks.
     
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    I've always found SG necks to be thin compared to a LP Neck. Love both and my Epiphone SG stays in tune despite having a tremolo.
     
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    100% agree with your analysis. Well put @Jakedog !
     
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    Not really. The thicker body and maple top on most Les Paul’s yield different tones. They feel and play differently.

    I have not had a problem with either to be honest. Initially I had tuning instability with the SG until someone suggested that I clean and lubricate the nut.

    As for the neck profiles, the rounded C’s on both are similar but the slim taper necks are different. There’s variability within the LP’s as well as some are quite fat.
    Obviously the weight and balance are widely different.
     
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    Are we talking necks, or are we talking guitars? I was under the impression OP was curious about the necks. Silly me.
     
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