Gibson Les Paul Special

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  1. tonyj

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    Hey bsman, you gave up too easily! You don't say which particular model or issue of the Special you had your bad experience with, whether it was indeed a Gibson or something else, or whether it was new, or just someone's heavily used and discarded 'relic' job.

    Whatever, I'm not suggesting for one moment that you didn't have the bad experience. I am however puzzled. There had to be a reason for you to want a DC Special in the first place, and presumably you had a good reason to expect a more positive experience and outcome. You must also know that guitars can vary from one to the next, even if only to a small degree. Having said that, you certainly found a very bad example of whatever it was you decided to 'test drive'.

    In my experience, the one you have been dreaming of (we are speaking of guitars in this case ;)), is out there somewhere - just waiting for you. You simply need to be patient .... You don't give up after trying out the one guitar, as you imply you did in your post. Try a different dealer and one who doesn't have a demonstration model available that requires you to have medic standing by.

    Find a nice example of the guitar you are looking for, and one that appeals to your eye as well as to your pocket book. Make sure the guitar has been set-up properly. If it doesn't feel right - try another or walk out. Just don't give up!

    The 'TV white' Special that I own is as close to being as perfect in its overall construction, finish and feel, as any guitar that I have ever been fortunate enough to handle. Granted, it is a 2006 CS Reissue of a 1960 LP Special, with a couple of 'reversible' tweaks - not the cheapest Special available I know, but, even my Double Cut 2011 Gibson USA Special, available new at less than half the price of the CS version, is finished to a pretty high level and is very close to the CS version in playability and feel.

    Not sure what else to say ...... these are both darn fine guitars ...... and I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. Keep on looking!

    A look at the 'finish' at the back of the necks etc., for comparison.....

    - first the 2006 CS 1960 reissue ......

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    ........and both are just as smooth as a baby's bum!! :eek:
     
  2. Torz Johnson

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    Either everybody's forgotten about this club, or nobody's bought a Special since March of 2014! Anyway I just picked this up last week; a very minty 2000 Gibson Les Paul "Junior Lite", which despite the nonsensical name, is a Special for all intents and purposes. Plays like a dream, and the P-100s actually sound pretty good despite all the bad press they get. Don't get me wrong, they're still getting swapped with P-90s, but they'll do for now.
     

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  3. Brian Krashpad

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    That looks great Torz! Agreed about the name. The Lites are distinguishable for their use of the small trapezoids on the neck. There are very few models that use those mini-traps.

    I have P-100s in a "Jr. Special SL" in the relatively rare color "spearmint:"

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    An internet friend of mine, who originally lived downstate from me, moved to my town after a divorce, and lost the guitar to a pawn when he went through some financial struggles. I had tried to buy it from him, but I was also skint at the time, and he needed the dosh.

    About a year or so later, the same guitar showed up back at the same pawn, so I snapped it up. Am sort of holding it for him, in case he can ever afford it again. But I've owned it for several years now, so I'm beginning to think that he won't ever buy it back. I don't want to mess with the original stock pickups, in case he buys it back, but it's not a big deal, since I have another singlecut Gibby LP Special w/proper P90s, and a doublecut Hamer Special with Seymour Duncan P90s.

    The great thing about Specials (whatever dorky name Gibson makes up for them), is that they give you the power of levitation. No s h i t!

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  4. wmsimpson

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    LOVE my C.S. Historic 1960 Special. :)

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    With my other P90 Gibsons...

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  5. Tony Done

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    I haven't got a pic of mine, but it is identical to this one:

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    It has P100 pickups, which I think are fine through a suitable bright amp.

    I also "Specialised" my Burny LP Jr:

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    The pickups in it in that piv are Tonerider Al II vintage. Light and bright compared to the P100s. It now has a GFS Brooklyn and the original bridge humbucker, about 10K ohms, I prefer the somewhat thicker sound, better suited to my amp settings.
     
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    I just joined the club

    It's a 2000. I guess going by some of the briefs that it's a lite due to the mini-traps

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    Awesome! Don't care for P-100's but if you dig it, that's what counts ....
     
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  8. tonyj

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    Hey acstorfer that is a handsome guitar. Enjoy it and once you run into a pair of P90s that catch your fancy you can make the switch ...... if that's what you wish to do ....... otherwise leave it.

    Those P100s aren't everybody's cup of tea, but so what? .......they aren't really too bad to be going on with.

    I would sooner buy a guitar with P100s than lose out on an otherwise nice guitar. Any changes can come at a later date.
     
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    Thanks guys. I just bought a used set of Electric City '60's P-90's. I got them on Wednesday and they'll soon be installed
     
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    Okay, although not a Les Paul Special, here's my newly acquired 1978 SG Special. I got it two days ago. Someone traded with me for my Classic Player 60's Strat.

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    Scratch-built Black Limba 'Special' with Tasmanian Blackwood neck/ebony fretboard, Schaller Signum bridge, Kluson Revolution tuners & Lollar P90s.....loving it! Black-Limba-Special.jpg
     
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    I just picked one of these up a couple weeks ago, always wanted one and found the right deal on CL. Such a cool guitar, wish I'd have gotten one way sooner


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    I've had my '97 for many years but just getting round to posting it. One of my go to guitars :) 97 Special.jpg
     
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  15. Brian Krashpad

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    I'm down to one Gibby LP Special:

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    I sold the Spearmint P-100 LP Special (above on this page) back to its previous owner, as I'd always planned, earlier this year.

    However, I still have my Hamer Special (DC), and I also bought an Epi TV White LP Special, so it's all good.

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    Just acquired this. It's a rocknroll machine.
     
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  17. ScottJPatrick

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    Sorry to say that I'm a lapsed member, '57 Special that I got in a swop deal for a '65 ES345. Yet another one that got away a while back, here it is with an original AC4, also sadly gone! I had a '59 double cut once too but could never keep it in tune, it was one of the ones with the really small neck join so probably had something to do with it.

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    More recently had a 1990 Special but it was a real boat anchor compared to the original, never really bonded with the P100's either. Swopped it for a 2007 faded cherry Flying V which actually has more in common with the '57 (weight, neck, resonance) than the 1990 Special ever did.

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  18. tonyj

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    Hey Scott, you've really have let some fine guitars slip through your hands. No doubt of course you had good reason at the time, but looking back, do you have any regrets?

    I'm something of a LP Junior/Special nut, and reading your post makes me wish I could have looked you up on one of my many trips through the Stirling region (I grew up in the North of England).

    I suppose too, that it's better to have owned the guitars you did, than never to have owned them at all ....... or whatever they say. ....:)
     
  19. ScottJPatrick

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    Tony, no regrets about selling them at the time, back in the mid to late 70's and early 80's when I was buying/selling/trading a ton of stuff they were just old guitars. I didn't mention the '59 Strat or the 3 '65 SG's (Jr, special and standard) or the '62 Les Paul/SG Jnr plus heaps of other guitars and amps. Duke Robillard frequently traded guitars and always said it was great to own them but great to have a different one too.

    Sure, they would be more valuable now, I sold the '57 Special for about £1,750 in 1992 which was a good price then, now it is probably worth about £7,500. I sold my first flat (apartment) in Edinburgh for £29,500 in 1982, it is now worth about £250,000, puts things in perspective!

    The Special actually came from Clive Brown in Ripon, now one of the best guitar restorers out there, he had a huge collection of P90 Les Pauls. If you ever see Tony Bacon's book - Ultimate Guitar, most of the Jnr's and specials in there were Clive's at the time. Met him a couple of times and saw his band 'The Mississippi Sheiks' too. I would love a 50's Junior, not much chance now though with prices at £3,500 - 5,000 over here.

    Funny thing is that despite all the 'desirable' guitars I've had I still own the one I used to step over the rest to get to for a gig and that's my much maligned around here '75 tele, had it since 1980 when I swopped a '76 Bi-Centennial Firebird for it, certainly no regrets about that one!
     
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    Here's mine. 2009 (I think) Custom Shop VOS Special in TV White. Nice chunky '50s neck that rivals my '51 Nocaster. Glorious P90s. Ive since added a Mojoaxe compensated wraparound as the stock one was starting to do the sitar thing on the high E. It now intonates as good as any of my tunomatic equiped axes. I love it.

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