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Discussion in 'Other T-Types and Partscasters' started by 6stringcowboy, Sep 13, 2019.
I've always thought that Squier make low price versions of actual Fender guitars, whereas Epiphone make cheap copies of guitars that almost look like Gibsons. I wouldn't mind an Epiphone SG but I'd prefer a Squier Tele'.
TBH, The historical headstock is more attractive to my taste.
I've been very pleased w/ their DR212 acoustic 12 string and wait w/ restrained hope each month I add my name to the monthly Epi raffle draw.
No luck yet, but who knows...
Peace - Deeve
I've always felt there were a handful of Gibson and Epi designs beyond the LP and SG that should always be available as Epis... like the Wilshire/Coronet, Melody Makers and set-neck Juniors and Specials.
But nobody ever asks me, so... we'll see..
re-cutting the headstock as a "major change"...
Im for the change, the current headstock isnt great in my opinion. Its a gibson headstock with its wings clipped and it doesnt send a positive brand message.
The vintage one certainly has its own thing going on and looks good. I have an Epi Riviera reissue with the mini humbuckers which has the vintage shaped headstock.
Well, that recut headstock is still not what Epiphone players want. They are after the Gibson headstock but with Epiphone on it (in small script, lol). The current/old style is the Gibson shape except for the 'clipped corners'.
This new/older version all I see are bigger string angles leaving the nut slots with more spread between the tuners, for more tuning problems "just like Gibson"...
And the end styling looks like "More Butt". It's also obviously a heavier headstock that SG models will have an extra push for neck dive.
Again, players who are concerned with headstocks want the Gibson shape.
I like the new headstock much better. Way better than that clipped-ear thing.
I've known more than a few people who've claimed they find the Epiphone headstock so unbearably ugly that they'd never own an Epiphone for that reason alone. Me, I like it. In fact, I think I like it better than the Gibson headstock.
So, they are just going back to the "Epiphone by Gibson" era stylling? Some will certainly like that....and some will hate it. In the end, it doesn't really change much. I would much rather see Gibson do something about their headstocks breaking off if you sneeze on them problem instead of cosmetics. Seriously, less angle or something, but fix that and they will find a lot more buyers than by any cosmetic changes.
Good, they'll make the older Epi's worth more, they will be the killer ''older" models in five years,,lol
The head stock change seems very minor to me. I have one from each family of Epi. I hate the canoe paddle headstocks, but they are the best guitars for the price and have been for a very long time. I'm with @jvin248, I would much rather have the smaller Gibson headstock with Epi on it. I will probably only buy one more guitar and I have been waiting for Epi to reissue the LP Junior DC.
As headstocks go, if they're not going to use the Gibson open book (where appropriate), I'd be fine with either of these variants.
If they come out with a new round of ES-295's with the new headstock - I'm there. I had one in my Musicians Friend cart back in 2002 - I switched at the last minute to an Elite Casino - and have been happy with the choice for the last 17 years - but I'd like another chance at a 295.
I just dont understand how ANYONE can not by a guitar because the headstock doesn't look exactly like the Gibson one.
They make amazing guitars at an amazing price point, to be so hung up on such a trivial thing astounds me.
I have owned many Epiphones before I finally bit the bullet and bought a Gibson LP Standard and still like (some days even prefer) the Epiphone ones.
BUT never would the headstock difference affect the purchase between either. to me at least.
I've always hated the Epi headstock, until they did the limited edition Sorrento a few years ago.
Didn't stop me hating the f-holes you can drive a bus through.
wouldn't it be funny if the reason they're suing Dean is to get their headstock design HAHAHAHAHA
I had an Epi 339 pro for a brief period a couple of years ago. I liked the guitar but HATED the unbalanced, awkward looking headstock. Yes. I am that shallow. This coming from a guy that plays the worlds ugliest tele.
I like the style of the masterbuilt headstock.