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Gibson Asking Players to Report Counterfeit Guitars

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Bones, Jun 25, 2019.

  1. telemnemonics

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    Plenty o' Murican buyers on hereb, guaranteed.

    They's easy to please...
     
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    I’ll get right on that, boss, right after this nap!
     
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    did they resurrect a guy with a fantastic hairline and a huge mustache that was the leader of a Eastern European country to run the company hope that isn't political wouldn't want to get reported again
     
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    One of the obvious differences is that the pirated PDF copy of the book was produced by the publisher, was shared on the internet, and is digitally the exact same artifact as the one for sale from the publisher. A copyrighted book being illegally shared via bittorrent isn't counterfeit—both PDFs are exactly the same. A counterfeit is a fraudulent imitation or forgery of something similar.

    Not so with a Chinese Les Paul copy. Now that's a counterfeit, regardless of how much better it is than some real Les Pauls!
     
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  5. telemnemonics

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    Yeah, yawn...
     
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    Not necessarily. Many of the pirated PDFs we ran into were compiled from low-grade, hard-to-read scans of printed books. Lousy pirated copies of 50 Shades of Gray are one thing. Illegible copies of technical or medical manuals can lead to costly mistakes or even injury. We weren't responsible for the pirated books, but we saw the risk as a real problem, and many publishers feel the same way.
     
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    Yes, I've seen those in the wild too, especially in the technical books market. Those are another thing altogether. Someone scans a clean PDF of an O'Reilly animal cover book, and strips out the formatting, graphics, table of contents, front and back matter (and of course, copyright warnings), then uses some ugly font and bumps up the size to make it more readable. Some of them have enormous amounts of whitespace, so they really aren't better or usable. Some of the pirates are bold–they'll put the URL (www address) of their site right in the margin every few pages, so people who steal the books know where to go to get more.
     
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    Whatever Gibson builds and calls a Les Paul is a real Les Paul. ANYTHING else is a copy.

    But I know what you mean. And anyone willing to ignore trademarks, patents, copyrights, or any other intellectual property rights is not going to comply with CITES rules. So, yes, they may get away with using RW and ebony. It’s still just a copy/knockoff/counterfeit.

    Not really fair to blame Gibson for CITES, though. They’ve already been the victim of a ham handed phony CITES charge complete with SWAT teams just for buying RW from India without the Indian exporter following India’s rules on raw vs processed woods.
     
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    Don't let facts get in the way of a good Gibson bashing thread !
     
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    I think Gibson Brands can take care of itself just fine.
     
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    To all the defending Gibson types that keep harping on the "counterfeiting". I understand their legal right to defend (should have defended long long ago). It's the pursuit of the grey area builders as their foe that irks me. Gibson has the nuts when history has shown their involvement in this (no denying the Hendrix strat. The APP single cut, if true)? Its pretty shortsighted.

    The video was Gibsons attempt the define what counterfeitting is to them. Can't say I agree but I'm not a legal expert. They'll all get together & let the lawyers lawyer.

    It's simple. Going after real counterfeiters is too big a task so they're laying all the blame at fringe builders so that they can stop the hemorrhaging. It was a calculated move put in place under Henry that is just seeing the light of day. It just keeps getting worse with them.

    Also... no one that I read within has said the url narc form was anything new. No one. The defenders turned it into an issue. I'm sure people within the forum have used it. I cant be assed to do their work, nor would I. They got people on it. Ever try to sell something on ebay resembling a G shape? After they'd lost the suit against PRS, they were still exercising that "right", getting auctions pulled.

    I have no beef with Gibson. If I saw one I liked that I could afford I'd buy. Used. They're making it tough tho.
     
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    I dunno about this. It looks like it could be a real Gibson, but there’s something not quite right…

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    I just turned my self in. And to be sure, called also the cops.

    This criminal will be going to the locker for a long time:

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    (sarcasm included)
     
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    Does Slash have to report the Appetite guitar?

    Also, I'd love to hear what Gibson has to say about this:

    http://www.owappleton.com/
     
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    It sure looks like the investmentcompany that presently controls Gibson is focusing on fakes and clones. Hope that's not all they are doing.

    I'm not sure they have the power to do so. Yes, they sure can squeeze small shop's but there's been a "Wallmartisation" in the industry and we got guitarcenter, Anderton's and Thomann. And at least Andertons and Thomann has succesfull inhouse brands (same development as in all retail).

    General concensus in retail (not just instruments) is that the big chains have gained power over manufactors in this development. So Gibson my succeed in this but it can also go the other way.

    I have a tip for Gibson. In Sovjet they awarded children with medals for giving up there parents. Something to copy?
     
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    The broken headstock indicates that it is authentic.
     
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    I'm sure* that must be a miniature model of a Gibson and they nailed pretty good.

    *because I haven't seen a human giant that big. :lol:
     
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    Sure - that's the Paul Bunyan signature model, right there. :eek:
     
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    So they have gone from threatening similar style guitars manufactured of better quality, to now asking the general public for support to call them "counterfeit".
    Has anyone seen a Les Paul or SG made in Japan, Korea or China with a unauthorised Gibson Logo or Serial Number?
    Pathetic response Gibson....actually sad.
     
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