Ghost Riders in the Sky (mix content)

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  1. woodman

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    I played this old cowboy chestnut for 40 years (can that be right? :eek:) in most of the bands that litter my dusty trails. There was always a better singer than me in the band, so I never got to sing it. But here's my chance!

    The arrangement morphed over the years into what was sometimes a 15-minute jam/medley, but I boiled it down to 6 minutes and change for this version. (The one-minute Santana excursion across the border used to be four or five minutes, and the drum solo, only four bars here, used to seemingly go on forever).

    But it was fun to reshape it once again, with my ol' saddle pal and former bandmate Tom Kuhn on bass and harmony vocal — a song that was super-fun to play and always brought down the house.
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  2. blowtorch

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    I love this song. I'll make sure and listen to it later, when I get the chance.

    I've also been playing it about 40 years, I'm currently working up a version (based on Johnny Cash's) for my surf instrumental band
     
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    Good job ! I hear you did the yippee yi ohh, yippee i aaa ; rather than yippee i aaa , yippee i ohh. The original version ends w ohh because it's a bring down cautionary tale. Aaa moves it up in energy and gives the song more of a just a good song vibe. lol I liked the Jingo break, sounded good and totally unexpected or would have been except for you that mentioned it.
     
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    The world is suddenly a better place! Thank you! I like the Good Bad & Ugly quote and the changes you use. Not all versions follow this sequence. I notice that most versions I've heard are either in Aminor or C#minor I've been teaching it in Eminor for many years on the basis that its easier for a 9 year old. Its impossible to hear this song without smiling.
     
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    Nice singing, reminds me of The Blue Brothers
     
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    Man that was fun, only listened on the phone so far and can't wait to fire up the PC for the full aural experience

    Edited to say, had a listen through the monitors and it's up there as ever with a Woodshed production
     
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    Elwood? Seriously a great version of the song. Love the Good Bad and Ugly bits and the Santana part of the song. Y'all did a great job on this.
     
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    Outstanding work!
     
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    lol......... you had me at Jingo! Great playin' brotha man!

    You can hear the many years of playing this song live. I get it.

    Question: P90's on the Santana lead part? Sure sounds like it.
     
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    Appreciate it, Stu! Good to see you back here around the ol' RIP campfire. You've been missed.

    Actually, those pickups are Seymour's '55 Seth Lover PAFs ... they're not wax-potted, so that may account for the P-90 similarity. Potting deadens pickups to my ear, although it's a necessary evil if you play live at loud volumes, but my work these days is 99.5% studio.
     
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    Are you a fan of Hughie Thomasson's (Outlaws) version of Ghost Riders?
     
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    The Outlaws' version is truly kick-ass Southern rock done well. I love the acoustic intro (although it's not on the single). But once the band kicks in, they go from 0 to 60 mph fast, then take the last two-minute shred at 90. I like and admire their version, and it's fun to listen to, but by the time it was released, I'd been working my arrangement for five years, so it wasn't much of an influence ... my approach is a little different.

    One thing I really like about this song is the twangy theme, so I kicked it off with that and acoustic guitar only — more country-rock than southern rock. Then each verse and chorus adds a layer or two, a little spaghetti Western and so forth, so when it gets to the Santana part, it's got a pretty good head of steam. Then it backs down after the drum solo but builds back up rapidly for the outro. So, dynamics play a bigger part in this production than guitar pyrotechnics. Besides, even in my prime I wouldn't be able to touch Hughie, much less in my current geezerly state! :D
     
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    This a great version... :)
     
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    I really admire and like your version very much. The guitar work is excellent and unique. I think I hear some HT influence in there, still. I also agree with what you said about the more western flavor, as, GR is not a southern tune. You really nailed the vibe, and definitely made it yours.

    Are you familiar with Diablo Canyon, title cut the 1994 Outlaws album of the same name? It's a fabulous western "rock" tune, complete with HT's wah Strat screaming like a raring horse. Hollywood should make a western around Diablo Canyon.

    Peace,

    Michael
     
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    Mucho fun. Only listened on the iPad. The hat or maybe ride might be a touch hot on that, but it’s an iPad.

    Sounding great, great performances.

    Cheers,
    Geoff
     
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    Yeah, unpotted PAF's.......that's where the edge to your solo sound comes from.
    That upper mid, (engineer talk) but not quite outa control bite.
     
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    I didn't even care because overall this kicks ass and I love it... BUT the ride cymbal on the right, and the cymbal over there too to a lesser degree was poking out to me too. Nitpicking and I feel silly mentioning it because this is great. It could even have to do with the right side being pretty bright overall somehow but i would tread carefully not to lose the great feel. Might even just leave it alone if it were me.
     
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    I'll give it a re-listen. Thanks, y'all!
     
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    Busy week! Finally got this song file back open and tinkered with the cymbals. Yeah, that ride was mighty clangy! The last phase of the mix, I was getting the guitars tucked in, but never revisited the drums. :rolleyes: It doesn't help that my ancient ears really have a hard time with highs — my rule of thumb is, if I can hear them, they're probably too loud! :D But running the mix thru all speaker systems and the headphones, no question that ride was pretty harsh, and I had the crash cymbals pulled up to match them. As I was working on it, trying to get some dynamics going, it occurred to me that I'd violated one of the first rules of fake drum tracks our pal Larry F tipped me to, back in my rookie days: Always vary the volume on your ride cymbal! I found several stretches where it was banging out quarter- or eighth-notes at a uniform velocity of 127 on each hit. UGH!

    So I rassled with it a while and came up with this. Let me know if you think I overcompensated! ;)
    (This replaces old file)
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    Sounds great, Mr. Grand Wazoo!
     
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